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29 May 2003 @ 11:51 am
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I feel out of sorts today. Out of laundry, disheveled, fat, sore-fingered, with shaggy hair, six months behind on writing, unable to focus on work, uncommitted to my life. Fuck off, world.

I need summer clothes and I've looked at the Bon, and seethed because their seasonal line of plus sizes is rack after rack of lime-green, hot-pink, brightly flowered crap, nothing of which I'd willingly wear. Then I ordered the Lane Bryant catalog and got *really* angry. First, all their clothes are modeled by size-four women whose thighs don't even fucking meet under their tidy little twats. And the clothes? Are ugly, ugly, ugly. They offend me. They *really* offend me. As in, here is a whole company of shitheels who deserve to writhe for an eternity in the lowest pit of Hell for designing hideous clothing, *knowing* that larger women will have to buy it because they have so few other options. They can foist whatever shoddy, shapeless nightmares they like off on their customers, and they do, the evil fucks.

I've been wearing the same dozen shirts for the last year, more or less. I hate shopping.

I dreamed all last night that I was running from a serial killer. I spent about eight hours on the run, actually. I was Phoebe Halliwell for a while and then I turned into katallison. I don't know what this means.

I've been meaning to thank people for their feedback and garlic recipes and advice on joint pain. I am paying attention even if I haven't been replying to comments.

My vice president has dyed her hair the color of Spike's, my co-editor is in Europe, and my manager stopped by my desk to chat just as I sat down and booted up this morning, unnerving me for a solid five minutes and forcing me to make conversation about nothing in particular.

Maybe I need a latte.
Y Durasyduras on May 29th, 2003 12:06 pm (UTC)
Word, sister
Who told the designers that big women like loud floral prints to the exclusion of all else? And what were they drinking?

And guess what - polyester? Also not very attractive, thanks.

I've had moderate luck at, of all places, Dress Barn Woman, although I do still tend to find a few outfits and wear them over and over rather than suffer through overpriced ugly from the stores.
harmonyfb: meharmonyfb on May 29th, 2003 12:09 pm (UTC)
I've been wearing the same dozen shirts for the last year, more or less. I hate shopping.

::ducking the blow that's sure to follow:: You could learn to sew - there's lots of cool patterns out there in plus size. Plus, it's fun. And fabric-buying is a whole new addiction to enjoy.

I sew most of my daughter's clothes for similar reasons - I don't want her looking like a kinderwhore (why are clothing designers making midriff, backless shirts for elementary school kids?), and the rest is just butt-ugly. So I sew. :)
contradictionary: desc of darknessainm on May 29th, 2003 03:36 pm (UTC)
why are clothing designers making midriff, backless shirts for elementary school kids?

Oh! Oh oh oh! [pauses to wriggle angrily in the chair] You forgot "skintight" in there. I have to buy like size 14 shirts for my 8-year-old so she doesn't look like a complete slut!

But I'm off topic, sorry! :-)
harmonyfb: horror mavenharmonyfb on May 29th, 2003 03:59 pm (UTC)
You forgot "skintight" in there. I have to buy like size 14 shirts for my 8-year-old so she doesn't look like a complete slut!

Exactly. I just quit looking and started making them myself. That way my daughter can look good and still look like a nine year old instead of a slutty 16 year old.
(Anonymous) on May 29th, 2003 12:09 pm (UTC)
Lands End offers a fairly normal clothing line for plus-size women up to size 26W. www.landsend.com
thermidorthermidor on May 29th, 2003 12:09 pm (UTC)
And the clothes? Are ugly, ugly, ugly. They offend me. They *really* offend me. As in, here is a whole company of shitheels who deserve to writhe for an eternity in the lowest pit of Hell for designing hideous clothing, *knowing* that larger women will have to buy it because they have so few other options.

Oh, yeah. The bad, evil polyester ward of hell. I *hate* people who design clothes. Bastards.

I hope you feel better soon. Days like this are no fun at all. *hugs*
Dammit, Clark's penis is going in *something*.: mystique is satisfiedthete1 on May 29th, 2003 12:17 pm (UTC)
If you don't have an Avenue near you (great clothes for people up to my size and bigger -- it's where I got my duster), try Torrid.
kassrachel on May 29th, 2003 12:24 pm (UTC)
Fuck 'em. You should have sexy clothes. Or at least clothes that aren't fluorescent and flowered.

I don't know if you're into flowy linen-type things, as I am, but you could try Flax -- they make amazing, gorgeous clothes, and I know they come in all sizes because I've seen friends of all sizes wearing them.

Also, for gothier things, try Torrid. They're the plus-size variant of Hot Topic. Some of their stuff is a little scary to me, but then again, I'm probably too sunny a disposition to make a good goth girl.
Sanj: Ron and Harrysanj on May 29th, 2003 12:24 pm (UTC)
The fashion shitheels *should* offend you, because they are absolutely 500% offensive. We hates them, precious. We hates them forever.

However, there is a small but measurable revolution in the works. Torrid (www.torrid.com) has some cute things and some that are a little too young and trashy. It's basically Hot Topic for larger sizes, and it's nice to think that we can

Here in my LJ (http://www.livejournal.com/users/sanj/68172.html) a bunch of us were talking about a formal dress I wanted to get. There's several online stores listed in this thread with neat upscale stuff. I particularly like Love Your Peaches because their models are actually, you know. Plus-sized.

Or we could just start Hothead Paisaning the fashion designers. I'm up for it if you are.

(If it helps -- and I am not making this up -- there's a small group of us over here that, whenever we hear your name, sigh "Anna" wistfully -- not just because you're a fabulous writer, but also because we think you're a total hottie. So the shitheels can go spin on their anorexic tailbones.)
"Smokin' hot."without_me on May 29th, 2003 12:30 pm (UTC)
Nordstrom usually has some decent plus-size stuff. It ain't cheap, though. But their Half-Yearly Sale starts next week, I think; that's usually worth checking out.
(Anonymous) on May 29th, 2003 12:51 pm (UTC)
Lane Bryant, AKA, shit-ass-m##@@f!!!!!
OH Anna, My Goddess. DO NOT BUY FROM LANE BRYANT! You deserve better, much better. Their clothes are crap - poor designs and even shittier fabric. Lands End was mentioned - great choice. Classic clothes, great colors and fabric. LLBean's and Elizabeth have web pages; I'll look up the URL for you. Also Nordstrom's Rack (if you have one near you) has a larger size section. The clothes are significantly cheaper than in the store. I am a larger (well, less large than I once was ) but now a 1X and I hear your pain. But it's not worth it buying from the cheap outlets - Lane Bryant, Romane's and their ilk. The clothes are crappy and the fabric is so lousy that it won't stand up to even one hand washing.
Anyway, I think you are wonderful, talented and deserve all the best.
namaste SF Nancy
Herself_nycherself_nyc on May 29th, 2003 01:02 pm (UTC)
Lane Bryant the catalogue is not the same as Lane Bryant the store. The store now has on-line shopping (but they also have stores in Seattle--I've been to one. There's a store locator on the website. Avenue stores, and their website, are also goodish, although their stuff for summer this year I found kind of dowdy. Also worth checking are www.alight.com, www.bandlu.com, and www.sizeappeal.com.

I also endorse Love Your Peaches, but she's expensive (I know the designer, who is a lovely woman, and will work with you if you have special requests and phone her up. But again, expensive.) Another expensive but can be worth it place online is Peg Lutz. Cheer up! There's actually plenty of good stuff to wear if you just know where to look.

Enjoy your latte.
Jane Bluestockingj_bluestocking on May 29th, 2003 01:02 pm (UTC)
My personal top choice, whom I've been using for years -- for suits way back when, and casual stuff now -- Silhouettes. They have a site (www.silhouettes.com), though their catalogues are a lot more helpful and you can see the quality of the clothes better.

Lane Bryant keeps sending me their useless catalogues, along with a note that warns, "This may be the last you receive from us!" I always think, "Promises, promises."

Ulla Popken and Junonia both use larger-sized models (both have catalogues, and are probably online as well). I tend to find more of what I want at Silhouettes, though. But then, I'm fairly middle-of-the-road in my clothing tastes -- I'm usually not looking for hot clubbing clothes. They've got lots of choices in tops and bottoms and a few dresses and ensembles, generally in silk, cotton, and linen, and flatteringly cut.

Kat Allisonkatallison on May 29th, 2003 01:46 pm (UTC)
I was Phoebe Halliwell for a while and then I turned into katallison. I don't know what this means.

Hee! That must be why I was feeling so uber-cool this morning, and like I was suddenly capable of writing well. *g* Or maybe we're just mind-melding in the out-of-sortness.

Hope that some of the clothing suggestions people have offered pan out. If it's any consolation, I haven't been able to find any clothes in smaller sizes that don't make me blench in horror. Everything I own is wearing out, but given the total lack of anything in the stores that I would even put on my body (let alone pay money for), I may be forced into nudism by midsummer. (Which would have its upsides, since once again, for the third year running, the A/C in my building is tanking.)

Rashka the Demon (wolf in the cave): free to dorashaka on May 29th, 2003 03:41 pm (UTC)
Happy birthday!
Bonethisisbone on May 29th, 2003 04:18 pm (UTC)
Plus sizes
Sticking my nose in here for a minute, because I have another clothing option to throw out there:

Coldwater Creek

They make all their clothes in sizes from P to W. Some of it's turquoise bandana, but hey, at least they're offering that in a size 2, too -- equal opportunity ick. They do bright and bold, but they also do classic long line stuff in decent colors and fabrics.

That's all I have to contribute, other than to say sorry you had such a sucky day.

A Surging Novel of Passion and Ruinarcly on May 29th, 2003 05:49 pm (UTC)
Was just passing and felt like leaving a sympathy message - agree with everything you said and hate shopping too because it's just so darn humiliating if you're a normal, womanly size. Ah, for the days of Rubens models, delicious draperies and lush décolletage, where skinniness was seen as a sad lack of flesh, and a pox on these stupid times of scrawny-thighed sticklets, vile changing-room mirrors, and hateful hateful Lycra. Am English and therefore can't give you much shopping advice, but for trousers, I find that men's sizes are more generous and actually quite flattering to the larger female rear end. Armani jeans (the cheaper off-the-peg version) do really nice, smart, comfortable wool ones. Anyway, good luck with finding something nice, and don't give yourself a hard time over it :)
(Anonymous) on May 29th, 2003 09:54 pm (UTC)
The suggestions for Silouhettes and Coldwater Creek are good although I bought a 1 X sweater from Coldwater Creek and had to return it because it was too small and the fabric was crap! But better luck next time.
I really like Elizabeth (Elizabeth.com) - it's the Liz Claiborne line for full figured (ie, real women) and the clothes are simple, sporty and very nicely made. I check out the web site for sales; you can really get some good deals.

namaste SF Nancy

Essene: jm sockessene on May 29th, 2003 11:24 pm (UTC)
2nding, or is it 3rding? The rec for Avenue. Totally cool stuff. And a BIG EMPHATIC nod to herselfnyc who so accurately pointed out that Lane Bryant catalog, and Lane Bryant store are sooooo not the same thing (and they have THE best denim there). I wonder how they can even bear to have their name on that pile of shit catalog.

We don't have one where I live, but I liked the stuff in Fashion Bug when I was near one in the fall. But truly? I survive on clothes from Ross. It's hell to pick through the racks, but when you can get a totally cute $40 shirt for $9 it's worth it. Also, strangely, I've gotten a few things at *gasp*Wal-Mart*gasp* of all places this year. Couple of cool cotten long shirts, some shorts, some capris and a really cute flirty little red top.

Do not lose hope!
(Anonymous) on May 30th, 2003 01:12 pm (UTC)
Walmart Love
Seconding the Walmart rec!! Despite being theoretically opposed to 'big box' stores, I found the nicest, comfiest linen-blend stuff there for summer. Nice solid, summery colors, a few muted stripes and small, wearable patterns.

Plus, it washes in cold water and if you hang it to dry, so far no shrinking and *no need to iron.*

Plus, majorly inexpensive. Nine dollars for a linen shirt, twelve-something for the capris.

Sizes xs-2x, same styles.

Good luck,

(Anonymous) on May 30th, 2003 06:56 pm (UTC)
"Fashion" hatred
Oh, Anna, I can sympathize. I hate summer clothes in general, no matter what size, and every summer try and find something to add to my wardrobe only to give up when surrounded by sickeningly colored, sleeveless, see thru, skin tight things.

Now, this summer? Pregnant. Seven months preggo, at the moment, and let me tell you - if you think plus size clothing is miserable, check out the maternity department! Skin tight, cut down to my navel, polyester, flowered, or a big old bow right under my breasts. Who thinks these styles are flattering? Yet people keep saying to me, "Wow, maternity is so much better than years ago!" Gaaaah.

So I can completely relate! I just wanted to wish you luck shopping. There are lots of good suggestions from others, which I won't repeat, but sip your latte slowly and eeeease into the consumerism...

~Stephanie (anonymous due to lack of LJ - sorry!)
(Anonymous) on May 30th, 2003 07:19 pm (UTC)
you don't know me...
I'm a serial LJ lurker, and for a while I've been trying to buck my nerve to tell you how much I love your writing... I feel like I'm eavesdropping on friends having private conversations, but I followed the fic to LJ-land and have been waiting by keyholes ever since. I feel like a cheat (thus the lurking) in the Buffy fandom, since I don't write these characters and so have nothing to trade for the goodies I devour...

This, maybe, I can trade. If you haven't already, you might want to check out J.Jill -- they tend to be pricey, but they have great sales, and sizes in women's go up to 4X. Their web site is jjill.com, of course -- most of the nice clothes I own these days are from this company. I love them because they do both women's and tall sizes...

And can I say again, I adore your writing?

(Anonymous) on May 31st, 2003 10:04 pm (UTC)
Re: you don't know me...
AKA You don't know me either...

I'm horning in as a serial LJ-lurker (and Anna lover!) too. I agree with most of what everyone's saying, but I thought I'd add in
Ulla Popken, by web or by catalogue here: http://ullapopken.com/default.asp
You have to hunt sometimes, to avoid the scary brights, but I've ordered from them, and the quality's high.

Also, for more basic workout/casual Friday-type clothes, Junonia is pretty terrific (and always has a sale section: Juno's Closet.)As an added plus (no pun intended ), their models are all shapes and sizes. And, they have great sports bras in a ridiculous variety of sizes. It's here:

And, Eddie Bauer has women's sizes up to 26W, but be careful, their stuff seems to fit very snugly.
Plus, I'd like to add, as a long-time lurker/secret stalker, that your mind is so sexy that the rest of you is probably pretty nifty too!
Thanks for providing countless hours of fascinating reading,
(Anonymous) on June 2nd, 2003 06:49 am (UTC)
Making It Big - online and retail stores

Take a look at Making It Big. They have a website that is user friendly (www.makingitbigonline.com) and some very nice clothes which is specifically designed for supersize women, up to size 72. They will custom dye most of their clothing, and the range of color choices is usually good. Lots of cotton, linen, some rayons. They carry "professional, career" styles as well as casual styles.

They are lesbian owned, feminist and environmentally friendly - and they actually pay their workers living wages. Customer service is great, very helpful. Never had any problem with returns.

In addition to their website, they have two retail stores - one is north of SF, can't remember offhand where the other one is.

Their models are real women, all supersize and various body types and ethnicities.

I've been buying their stuff for over 20 years, back when all they had were one or two item styles, and they used to sell at Michigan. The clothing is always great quality, though it is not cheap, but it lasts forever.

If you sign up for notice of sales at their website, they'll let you know when things go on sale. Usually an item or two goes on sale every week or two, with a decent discount, usually 20%. (They don't spam you with emails, either, which I appreciate.)

Oh, and their annual clearance sale is great. I always save up for it, and get a bunch of stuff at 50% off or better.

Another Karen

(Anonymous) on June 7th, 2003 02:40 am (UTC)
I'm another "you don't know me" who was passing by, curious where all the Sentinel people had gone and too hot to sleep. Good suggestions. I'd particularly like to second the Flax recommendation. Since discovering it last year, I've morphed most of my wardrobe into its flowy linen & Tropics rayon. Comfy and washable, made in sizes petite through "Generous". See flaxdesigns.com for designs & links to dealers, including several online. I recommend nicheonline.com for Generous and cheekscapemay.com for all sizes. Not cheap but I mostly buy on sale & ebay.

Anna S.eliade on June 9th, 2003 05:44 pm (UTC)
Yes--that's funny, because a day or so before your post, I ordered some Flax. I already owned some but was finally prompted to order some more because it's so hard to find locally in stores. I got my shipment and am reminded of how great their stuff is. Too bad it's so expensive or it'd be practically all I wore.