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25 May 2003 @ 10:59 pm
keanu says...  
"The path to enlightenment is the middle way. It is the line between all opposite extremes."

See--not all television is bad for you. If you surf through five minutes of The Little Buddha you too can receive the balmy wisdom of the ages from an actor with an atrocious accent and a laughable beard.

I just liked it because it summed up my thoughts once again on the final BtVS season. (Sometimes I can actually sustain the belief for seconds at a time that it had some meaning.)

So, question. Most people on my friends list have Buffy-themed LJs...BtVSLJs? Some have SVLJs (hmm, I think I'm inventing acronyms), a few have HPLJs or DSLJs, and some queens are holding court in their LJs over a whole slutty rainbow of fandoms (::cough::TE::cough::), so: who are the people with QAFLJs? I mean, I could look it up as an interest group, but I'm sure it's huge and it won't necessarily tell me who is writing and talking about Queer as Folk non-stop and captivatingly.

Does anyone have LJ recs?

Edited to add: Comments now contain insane squees and spoilers for tonight's QAF.

in search of a clever byline: grrarrgh10zlaine on May 25th, 2003 10:30 pm (UTC)
so: who are the people with QAFLJs?

Mmmm, hmmmm.

Her do got it some awful bad.

Did you see that kiss tonight?!
Anna S.eliade on May 25th, 2003 10:51 pm (UTC)
I saw many, many kisses tonight, but if you mean that one where Brian tucked his thumb up under Justin's chin and pushed him back against the pillar in his loft...er, yeah. I saw that.

And my god: they just keep giving us one joyful, incredible B/J fuckfest after another. I loved the first one when they ended up home in bed, and the one interrupted by the asshole police chief, and their kissy prelude to a screw at the very end. (Brian wielding the sledgehammer, oh man--hail the conquering hero! Sexy fuckers of the world, unite!)

Jesus god, they are SO. FUCKING. CUTE. TOGETHER! How much do I love them? How much how much how much? At least six by nine inches of meaty love. And oh my god--when they're walking to Babylon and Justin says, "I can always make my mother's meatloaf, honey. And we can look at photos from when we took the kids to Disneyworld." HOW MUCH DO I LOVE THEM?

Plus it's just so fucking sweet to see them in synch when everyone else is going through the wringer. Well, Michael and Ben are tight, but poignant storylines are spilling over left and right. Granted, losing your job isn't fun, but at least Brian can take some satisfaction from the knowledge that he's done the right thing.

Not that he looks thrilled with it. {g} He was wearing the Brian Kinney squinch of discomfort all during the scene with Debbie.

Speaking of which I couldn't stop staring at GH's hair in that scene. The poor man needs serious restyling. Someone in make-up needs to put in their contacts.

But still. He's just like a puppy, a big goofy puppy.


Sigh. I am so sad. They better never kill the shmoop there or I'm going to be bitter in a truly epic, nunnery-joining, cop-punching, jail-time-serving, drunken-bender way.
Anna S.eliade on May 25th, 2003 10:53 pm (UTC)
Sigh. I am so sad.

Sad as in lame, I mean. I am actually quite happy. TV: The Natural Mood Elevator.

Right up there with smut and salmon.
in search of a clever byline: wicked10zlaine on May 25th, 2003 11:18 pm (UTC)
As much as I fairly dig the other players, I'd have no problem with the BrIAn&JuSTIn show.

Watch them eat cold cereal! Watch them sweep the floor! Watch Brian stut his sexay nekkid ass all over the loft!

The thing is, even when they were split, there was such a powerful vibe, and it was SO great watching Brian be all moon-eyed over Justin.

Sigh. The schmoopiness of slashy boys is a force nigh impossible to resist.
Destina: zendestina on May 26th, 2003 12:19 am (UTC)
I saw many, many kisses tonight, but if you mean that one where Brian tucked his thumb up under Justin's chin and pushed him back against the pillar in his loft...er, yeah. I saw that.


My cable was out and I missed it. There are no words.

Must remember to catch it Tuesday night. Gah. *hangs head*
Tuesday Has No Phonesthebratqueen on May 26th, 2003 08:35 am (UTC)
I'll be right there with you. I didn't get back from a BBQ until QAF was over, and I didn't think to tape it b/c I'm usually back in time. Oh well. As you say, Tuesday.
Herself_nyc: Brian/Justin kissherself_nyc on May 26th, 2003 03:20 pm (UTC)
First of all, his hair is perfect. That's actually a superlative haircut. Really, truly.

And my God, it's impossible not to imagine that Gale Harold and Randy whatsisname aren't actual real life lovers because they COULD NOT be hotter together. The laws of physics would not allow it.

I'm amazed with where the storylines are going. Ted is really going TO HELL IN A HANDBASKET--boy, when they decided to blow him out of his goodie goodie two-shoes thing they didn't do it by halves. And Brian losing his job--whoa. It had to happen, and it was brilliant--that scene afterwards with Deb was amazing--the Brian Kinney squinch of discomfort aside, because despite that he was present with her in ways he usually isn't. But he's also supporting Justin, isn't he?--and I'm doubting he's been salting away a lot of money--he lives so large.

Damn do I love this show.
Estepheiaestepheia on May 26th, 2003 12:22 am (UTC)
I once downloaded two or three epis of QAF and was very amused, but downloading was a hassle and the files were bad quality, so I stopped again. Wouldn't mind having the DVDs, though.
Are the DVDs good? Expensive? Good extras? Good quality?
From what I've heard DVDs are cheaper in the US than here.
A complete season of Buffy sets us back $110-120, depending on special offers and such.

I'll be in Florida in July, so I could go and buy them. Any tips, which stores to avoid?
in search of a clever byline: grrarrgh10zlaine on May 26th, 2003 06:59 am (UTC)
If you don't mind my jumping in...

They are kind of pricey--and I think that has to do with them being a Showtime product. I have seen them priced as low as $86 at www.deepdiscountdvd.com and as high as $119 full retail. You might consider Ebay. I'm thinking about it for my S2 set.
Estepheiaestepheia on May 26th, 2003 07:28 am (UTC)
Thanks for the infor. :-)
Herself_nycherself_nyc on May 26th, 2003 03:27 pm (UTC)
I got the sets for under $80 each from Amazon marketplace sellers. But yeah, pricey. The extras on season 1 are quite nice though--bloopers, cut scenes, commentaries. I was happy. Season 2 hasn't arrived yet.
Morgan Myerstheothermorgan on May 26th, 2003 06:27 am (UTC)
I've only gotten to see the 1st Season of AQaF... now I can't wait to get the 2nd season DVDs and will pout until the 3rd comes out. *sigh*

Of course, you must realise that I've read about it so much recently that I had to go out and buy my OWN copies of the 1st season DVDs...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^jaymalea on May 26th, 2003 08:22 am (UTC)
QAFUS is very active on the yahoogroups lists... BJFIC would be a good place to start. Plus Sandstorm/Andrea has GREAT clips on her site through ep310.

I don't have Showtime *sigh* but do have S1 DVDs. I got mine for $80 through Blockbuster Video.
wyoluvrwyoluvr on May 26th, 2003 08:47 am (UTC)
hell, it was new? i thought it was a rerun so i followed the siren call of Boston's own Babylon..for the night.

::toddles off to showtimeonline to see what happened:
Girl With Journal: bad rudegirlwithjournal on May 26th, 2003 09:10 am (UTC)
I, too, have recently fallen under the spell of QaFUS, and though I don't talk about it too much (yet) my friend nenar does. And probably, if you encouraged her, she would talk even more...

Also, my friend spazatron made me this icon.
Herself_nyc: Brian/Justinherself_nyc on May 26th, 2003 03:23 pm (UTC)
Does that say I'm a Bad Rude Man?


Someone could write an essay comparing/contrasting Spike and Brian . . . .
Girl With Journal: bad rudegirlwithjournal on May 26th, 2003 07:34 pm (UTC)
What someone really should do is write Sprian. Oh, yes. But that may just be a pipe dream of mine...
Herself_nyc: Brian/Justinherself_nyc on May 27th, 2003 09:51 am (UTC)
Y'know, I've mentioned this to Anna a couple of times, but she keeps scoffing at me. Scoff Scoff. And I tend to scoff at it a bit too. Partly because crossovers are silly and partly because when I try to imagine Spike and Brian in the same space, they're like matter/antimatter, and there's just a big explosion.
Girl With Journal: bad rudegirlwithjournal on May 27th, 2003 10:15 am (UTC)
Crossovers do tend to be silly, especially when they're huge ensemble things and pages and pages are taken up with introductions. But with just two characters it can work, like that great Anya/Mulder fic that I stupidly can't remember the name or the author of.

I was thinking of Spike post-Lover's Walk and Brian alone on the night of his 30th birthday, both drinking at some bar neither has been to before and...well, I didn't get any farther than that because I don't trust my ability to write a good crossover or, more importantly, good smut. But someone should, at least to get the idea out of my brain.
Herself_nyc: Crawl!Spikeherself_nyc on May 27th, 2003 10:25 am (UTC)
Oooh, a premise.

A premise that could work . . . .

Girl With Journal: bad rudegirlwithjournal on May 27th, 2003 10:55 am (UTC)
::whispers "Write it!" seductively in herself_nyc's ear::
Lilisconcernedlily on May 26th, 2003 10:34 am (UTC)
I haven't found any QAF LJs, although I've been actively looking. It seems like all the people who do decent discussion don't do LJ.
spankys on May 26th, 2003 03:34 pm (UTC)
On Nummytreats, way, way back, there is a QAF/Buffy crossover with Spike/Xander, Brian/Justin. I don't think they'd gotten very far though. When I read it, I'd never seen QAF US or UK. Since, I've borrowed my friend's S1 DVD and tapes of S2 to probably the mid-season. God, I love them. What is it about a bad boy? Brian, Spike, so sexy. Don't have Showtime though, so no Season 3. I have young kids, so I can only watch late at night, so I end up staying up 'til 2am.

Herself_nyc: Spike Sniffingherself_nyc on May 26th, 2003 04:26 pm (UTC)
OK, now I want to read this. Link?
(Anonymous) on May 26th, 2003 09:30 pm (UTC)
QAF recs - Pt 1
Hope to share some more QAF and Brian (and B/J) love… I don’t know how much you’ve searched, but for what it’s worth…I'll email this as well, in case my post is too long.

Being a total cretin with all things technological and computers, while I love perusing LJ and am SO IN LOVE with QAF and all things Brian and B/J!! (I saw the British QAF first and loved it, HATED the US QAF until one day, I watched Ep 1 again on rerun and went WOW, who is this Brian guy??? I can barely even watch the original anymore) I haven’t got one of my own… otherwise I would have posted this to your LJs. There are not many LJs that focus on B/J or QAF (or not nearly enough philosophical discussion/perving for my liking), but there’s always hope of changing that with this new wave of devotees!!! Hint hint.

If you’re looking for decent discussion, it’s bloody hard to find and you have to wade through a whole ton of crap. The only half-way decent forum, with intelligent POVs and arguments that I have found is the QAF Refugees forum, which was formed after people defected from the OTT snarkiness of TWOP. Most of the other forums (such as QAFTalk) are mainly bitchfests. They’re also fairly anti-Brian (this is where the bitter TWOP-ers now reside), which is tiresome in its relentlessness (I guess like the Spike-hate), not to mention INSANE!!! Some people only like vanilla characters, I guess. *sigh*

As for fanfiction, it tends to be even more dire than finding decent QAF discussion groups. DO NOT join the BJFic group on Yahoo. I tell you, NO GOOD LIES THEREIN. Save your head unnecessary pain, and your dentist a huge bill after needing dental reconstruction after all the gnashing. It’s truly scary, and in the most part truly AWFUL. That’s just the storylines; I’m not even getting to basic stuff like spelling, sentence structure and punctuation….. *shudder*

That said, there is some GREAT stuff there, but it tends to be on individual sites, although it is often archived on the general lists too. The website What Love Means (www.whatlovemeans.com) has the best collection of B/J authors and feedback, has recaps and discussion on episodes and Q&As and special features with authors & betas. A very good resource. Most of the stories I’ve listed below can be accessed through links there.

The best stories I have read (and despite active seeking decent fiction for a year, I’ve only found a handful of stories I love, printed and return to over and over) tend to focus on Brian as he’s the character I love BY FAR the most; and as much as I adore the Brian/Justin relationship, I don’t find Justin a particularly compelling character in his own right, separate to Brian’s journey.

I'll post a few individual story sites in the next part.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^jaymalea on May 27th, 2003 08:18 am (UTC)
Re: QAF recs - Pt 1
Sianna, thank you for clarifying that! I meant BJFIC for Andrea's clips!!!! For fiction, all the other sites that you said!

Tho' I do admit for fondness for Rizabeau's stories, and am looking forward to her new one.

(Anonymous) on May 26th, 2003 09:30 pm (UTC)
QAF recs - Pt 2
I have no idea how to include links, but I’ll type in the site addresses and a summary.
1. Deconstructing Brian (complete) and Reconstructing Brian (he posts a new chapter every week) by Randall Morgan (Randall’s Rambles website – http://frontiernet.net/~grencism/rrambles/index.html) Brian is now working in NYC, and begins to sees a shrink after losing Justin and not being able to get himself together (initially, it’s lack of sleep that gets him to seek help). Also features a compelling, intertwined B/OMC storyline. Fantastic story, not to mention the fact that Randall has predicted things (like Brian being fired, albeit for different reasons) before Cowlip went there. There are a whole bunch of other stories there, including a fantasy Season 3 written in the Season 2 hiatus which is quite good. But the DC/RC stories are the best, IMO.

2. Queer Theories by Gadhael (http://members.aol.com/gaelmcgear/fanfictionpage.html). This is AU in that Brian becomes a movie star through a past relationship reconnection, but the characters from QAF are all there and it’s a monster. There are 114 chapters so far, some of which have up to five parts. I have it printed out (A4 paper, 8 font arial narrow) and it’s close to 500 pages. It’s winding up now (a few more chapters to go) but there’s a sequel planned. Gael’s also written a copy of other B/J AU stories, which are on her site. There’s a cast of hundreds but all are kept in train, and it’s technically very well written. The focus is Brian, and it fleshes out his past in a manner I haven’t found anywhere else. Like Randall, she writes a chapter (sometimes 2) most weeks. Brian is more damaged (if possible) than the Canon Brian.

3. Stories by Lane Carson (What I Want site – www.angelfire.com/folk/laneysqafstories/) are generally not squishy nice; far more how Season 1 and 2 actually seemed on-screen. Most of her stories are Season 1-themed. She is working very slowly (RL interferes, dammit) on one fic right now; the others are short stories, but still very effective.

4. Stories by Miss Miko (Heels Over Head website – www.missmiko.net). She has a whole stack of Season 1 and 2 gapfillers, but her full B/J story which picks up from Justin’s bashing is just great (Fantasy Season 2 and 3). It includes a substantial post-bashing courtcase, a heartbreaking cheating scenario (Justin/OMC, not Brian!) and is the only fic I’ve read where B/J have a commitment ceremony that’s even halfway decent and realistic and doesn’t make me want to retch (well, only a teensy-tiny bit). It’s also very long (several hundred pages). Again, very realistic in its portrayal of B/J’s relationship and its ongoing battles.

5. Intermissions (finished), Golden Gate (finished), Fast Forward (in progress) series’ by Morpheus (http://www.morpheusqaf.com/Season2-Index2.html) She also has Season 1 and 2 gapfillers, but her Fantasy Season 3 story series starts with Intermissions. Picks up from Ep 220, and covers the B/J breakup and reunification believably, and has stayed reasonably true to the characters.

6. The Colour Series (finished) by Trisky (http://home.attbi.com/~triskyfic/index.html). Wonderful, wonderful writing style and characterisations. Also a post 220 reunification series.

7. Limitations (finished), Push (finished) and One (in progress) by Ardra (http://www.ardraspace.com/). Very very very dark. Titillated (hell, who wasn’t!?) by thoughts of the sex scene in the NYC hotel room and the 210 bedroom scene where Brian mock-strangles Justin, she depicts an BDSM-y relationship. It’s very full-on and disturbing. Did I mention they were dark? But wonderful in their own kinky, scary way. The three series are consecutive.

That should be enough to put you in reading heaven for a while. Hope it’s of some assistance and gives you pleasure.