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28 April 2003 @ 03:11 pm
Drink me.  
Last year I tried a few womencentric yahoo lists before for drinking issues, and never found a home. Bunch of strangers wearing pastel platitudes, offering earnest sticky hugs--not my thing. Today, much, much later, because I am turtlelike slow of thought, it occurred to me that I could start a group of my own. So I just did. No FAQ yet. I'll probably work on something tonight, or later this week. But I'm impatient, and so I'm going to troll for members. Please feel free to pass this on--in fact, please do.

Fangirls at Five

Five o'clock--that's cocktail hour. But this list is open 24 hours a day for bitching, moaning, angsting, whiling away the time, distracting yourself from whatever you're trying to avoid. Open to fannish-type, female-type people, writers and non-writers, the sober and the soaked, who want a space to hang and discuss drinking issues, or anything else at all. Fiction with drinking themes. Writing. Buffy. Willow's addiction arc and how stupid/cool it is. The dark aesthetics of alcohol, the fucked-up allure of a cut-glass tumbler. Et cetera.

Other addictive behaviors are open to discussion, but this is a place for witches with black eyes. If your drinking's fine but you're addicted to crack, go ahead and join. You'll fit in. If you're addicted to shoe shopping, look elsewhere. In general this is a space for those of us who are:
  • sober
  • sober on and off
  • drinking but ambivalent about it
  • sober but ambivalent about it
  • drinking but trying to stop
  • generally fucked.
AA membership not a requirement. In fact, you can rant about 12-step programs here if you want. Support of each other's sobriety rather than enabling of drinking should be the accepted default. This is not a negative space. Trolls and psychos will be booted. This is a private list and members must be approved. Until a FAQ is written, the usual list netiquette applies--bandwidth, flames, tolerance, blah blah blah.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fangirls-at-five/

Also: if you join, I expect at least an intro post and an occasional peep. Lurking on a list like this is a little questionable. I understand the impulse, I really do, but give a little hand wave once in a while so we know you're part of the hivemind, and not someone taking notes for your next Drunken Lex story. Okay? Cool.


 
 
Juliajuliaabra on April 28th, 2003 03:35 pm (UTC)
I feel the need to wish you well with this new endeavor. I hope it gives you what you need from it.
kassrachel on April 28th, 2003 03:58 pm (UTC)
Bunch of strangers wearing pastel platitudes, offering earnest sticky hugs--not my thing.

If you have a place where you keep random lines that Spike might say, paste that one in.

Now I have amusing visions of Spike getting stuck in some kind of appallingly earnest support group. For vampires who are trying to stop drinking human blood, out of some weird misguided notion that if they kill only, say, pigs, they can rise above their soullessness. Or something. All the rest of them in styleless castoff clothes, old Disney t-shirts from Goodwill, and Spike looking as out-of-place as he feels, all in black leather and jonesing for a cigarette, saying your line.

I amuse easy, apparently. *g*
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Anna S.eliade on April 28th, 2003 04:10 pm (UTC)
Dude, yes! I totally love the idea of Spike in a vampire AA and that bunny has been banging itself against my window for months. In fact, I've been half-planning it for Sidelines. So y'all may see it eventually. ;)
Hepcatnwhepcat on April 28th, 2003 04:59 pm (UTC)
One of my favorite things about the movie Fight Club, before it veered screechingly off the track, was the main character haunting all manner of self-help groups and illness support groups. That was hilarious stuff.

And the group/list sounds like a great enterprise.
herself_nyc on April 29th, 2003 08:36 am (UTC)
That WAS the best part of "Fight Club."

Do it, Anna! And I'll see you (I hope) on your list.
Jenn: Playvampjidabug on April 28th, 2003 04:47 pm (UTC)
Terry Pratchett did a sort of Blood Drinker's Anonymous in one of the Discworld books. "The Fifth Elephant," I think. And yes, I can so see Spike in that kind of atmosphere thinking, "what a load of wankers," or somesuch.
carta on April 29th, 2003 05:01 am (UTC)
Terry Pratchett created a support group for vampires in his book The Truth. One of the characters is Otto, a vampire who's "taken the pledge" and, when he feels the need to drink blood, sings revival songs. (He also has a suicidal love for flash photography.) It's hysterical.
(Anonymous) on April 29th, 2003 06:56 am (UTC)
Joined up but
seeing I fall into the drinking but okay with it catagory I hope it doesn't mean I have to quit, LOL.

BTW, frigging Yahoo whouldn't let me use luvsbitch (I'm offensive! Duh) so went by luvsfic. How boring.

See ya there!

luvsbitch
(Anonymous) on April 29th, 2003 01:41 pm (UTC)
New Group
Anna - I hope that this group helps you. It's one thing to write about demons but it's another thing to be at the mercy of one. Good luck!

namaste SF Nancy
infidel in the laundromat: acegotham_syren on May 4th, 2003 01:31 pm (UTC)
Oh. Cool!
Wandered here via a friend's LJ... Letting you know that I think the newsgroup is a kickass idea. See you there!