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10 February 2005 @ 07:51 pm
gratuitous due south love  
I stayed home sick today with a sore throat and spent a whole lot of time doing nothing. Just now I started watching the pilot of due South, or dueSouth, or Due South. (Help? Even after all these years, I don't know how to type that.) I'm twelve minutes in and it's already one of the most gorgeous things I've ever seen. I don't remember the last time I watched it--years ago, probably--but it's like I'm seeing it for the first time. I love when memory's kind like that: bad enough that the old seems new, and good enough that you can recognize what you've loved.

herself_nyc, I wish I'd had the pilot on DVD when you visited and had had the brains enough to show that to you first in my attempted pimping. I'm a sucky pimp! Maybe we can take another stab at it someday if someone doesn't beat me to it.

I return to my couch now.
 
 
 
aliquid stat pro aliquomaygra on February 11th, 2005 04:00 am (UTC)
I think "gratuitous" and "due south love" is an oxymoron.
Anna S.eliade on February 11th, 2005 04:07 am (UTC)
Hmm. I had to consult my dictionary. *g* One definition is "costing nothing," which may work. Though come to think, this cost about $44, but maybe I can let that go.

I think that should have been "gratuitous post of due south love." Now should I give in to my OCD anal-retentive tendencies and change that, or brood on it for a while....

You caught me in a minute when I had to get up from the couch in a fit of giggles at Fraser's expression. Hit "pause" and savor. Sigh.
Mireillemireille719 on February 11th, 2005 04:10 am (UTC)
I usually don't like pilot episodes, or at least don't think they hold up as compared to later episodes, when the show has "gelled" a bit, but the DS pilot is a thing of wonder. It fills me with great love every time I watch it.
Anna S.: buffy_mooneliade on February 11th, 2005 04:17 am (UTC)
I remember talking to sherroldish, feochadn, and wickedwords years ago, and saying reflexively, as a first thought, that I couldn't grasp DS in an authorial way--there was no mythos for me to latch onto, but then I corrected myself and said, but no, there's the whole Canadian myth--the wilderness and the Mountie honor. But I was afraid then, and still am, of trying to take on another culture, to adopt it for fiction and speak through it. I'd miss so much, I think, even if I got a Canadian beta. Someone like katallison I think of as an honorary Canadian. *g* Being so close to it. It's really just my own issue. I think that's why I love Buffy so much, and Stargate and X-Files before it--all very American mythologies in their way, and so less anxiety-producing for me as a writer.
Mireillemireille719 on February 11th, 2005 04:30 am (UTC)
I think that's one reason that, in general, when I did write DS - and I wrote a lot of it; it was my last big zine-based fandom, back when the first two seasons were on, and during the gap between S2/S3 - that I nearly always avoided Fraser's POV; because then I could write as an American, looking at that mythos from the outside, more easily.

Then again, maybe I just trample on other cultures' mythologies, given that my earliest fandoms were all based on British TV.
Anna S.eliade on February 11th, 2005 04:41 am (UTC)
It's embarrassing to admit I never thought of doing it that way--from one of the Ray's POV's. D'oh. Sometimes I'm a little slow. Like, years slow.

I'm wary of the British too. ::looks warily at the British:: I always fear I'm getting some tiny detail wrong. It's nice, though, to write via Buffy, because I think they often get the tiny details wrong too. *g*
Anna S.: city_lightningeliade on February 11th, 2005 04:53 am (UTC)
I hope I wasn't offensive, by the way--I didn't mean to imply that other writers couldn't handle writing about other cultures. It's one of those old arguments that crops up every once in a while, about the universality of human experience and how "writing what we know" doesn't necessarily mean I can only write about the experience of a single white American woman of 5'5", etc. It's really just my own issue--fears, of course, and also perhaps a desire to write in fandoms where I don't have to apportion as much time to researching the cultural background. :)
Trepkostrepkos on February 11th, 2005 01:42 pm (UTC)
"writing what we know" doesn't necessarily mean I can only write about the experience of a single white American woman of 5'5"

I think we're all very grateful for this - can't do without the vampire porn...


Shapinglightshapinglight on February 11th, 2005 10:22 am (UTC)
I adore Due South and have been meaning to re-watch it for quite some time.

Will never forget the Fraser/Ray 2 underwater kiss.
Anna S.eliade on February 17th, 2005 04:11 am (UTC)
That kiss was an awesome thing. *g*
Trepkostrepkos on February 11th, 2005 01:38 pm (UTC)
I love when memory's kind like that: bad enough that the old seems new, and good enough that you can recognize what you've loved.

I'm hoping that one day I'll be able to stop watching BtVS for long enough for this to happen... but its hard!
Herself_nycherself_nyc on February 11th, 2005 03:16 pm (UTC)
I doubt anyone will beat you to it, so: you're on.
shadowscastshadowscast on February 12th, 2005 01:31 am (UTC)
Mmm, Due South. My first fandom. I've never written anything in it, not even a drabble (even though I am Canadian) but I spent many happy hours on Hexwood, five years back.

Due South was the show that taught me to see slash. I just told Debrahmm about this (so now I feel like I'm repeating myself)...but when watching the S3 eps I became convinced that Fraser and RayK had the hots for each other. Were flirting, even. And I told my roommate and he was unsupportive, so I went on the internet to see if I could find anyone who saw what I saw. And I couldn't! :P It was 1998 and I didn't know the name of what I was looking for.

I finally stumbled across slash purely by accident about 6 months after that. Life is funny...and also sweet. :)

I worry about that writing across cultures thing, too. My first fandom that I wrote in was "Once A Thief," also Canadian, and that was a comfort zone for me. Writing in Buffy, I worry about the British stuff. I've never worried much about the American bits; I feel (rightly? wrongly?) like I understand American culture pretty well.

Hey, seriously, if you ever decide to write Due South and want a Canadian beta, I would totally be there for you. (Centimetres! Celcius! Pop! Zed! MuchMusic! Toques! Words with extra u's in them!)
Anna S.eliade on February 17th, 2005 04:10 am (UTC)
Mmm, Due South. My first fandom.

So cool! I had no idea. :>) I'm always fascinated to find out people's backgrounds in otheer fandoms--and also to watch people get into new fandoms, as I seem to see happening a lot lately on my flist. Yay!

Due South was the show that taught me to see slash.

Yay!

I just told Debrahmm about this (so now I feel like I'm repeating myself)...but when watching the S3 eps I became convinced that Fraser and RayK had the hots for each other. Were flirting, even.

Well. *frown* They *were* flirting with each other.

And I told my roommate and he was unsupportive, so I went on the internet to see if I could find anyone who saw what I saw. And I couldn't! :P It was 1998 and I didn't know the name of what I was looking for.

Awesome. *g* Meanwhile, I was all about the Mulder. M/K, M/S. Heh.

*kiss*
shadowscastshadowscast on February 19th, 2005 04:21 am (UTC)
Well. *frown* They *were* flirting with each other.

Well. Yeah. :)

Slashiest. Series. Ending. Ever.