?

Log in

No account? Create an account
 
 
17 January 2005 @ 10:04 pm
hmm.  
So I was channel surfing and paused when I saw The Hustler, and I thought, "Hey, they filmed my old Mulder/Skinner story!" which is, perhaps, one of the classic signs that you should step away from the mouse and take a break from the fan-fiction.

Further up on the cable scale I came across There Must Be a Pony. By the same association of thoughts, I'm thinking that somewhere out there is My Little Pony porn waiting to be discovered. No, no--thank you, no links are necessary.

The comments on Luna's post made me remember that I've wondered for a quite a while about tentacle porn. For those of you nervously edging your chairs away from the computer, I'll cut-tag. Some explicit stuff behind the green door.



So I have a lot of kinks, including some kind of hard core ones, and even ones that I don't have, or that edge into squicky, I usually get. Like, I'm not really into medical kinks, but I pretty much understand what makes catheters interesting. But tentacles I still don't get; I mean, they're just not ringing a bell. I would classify it as bestiality, which I get, except that it's fish, right? I don't get fish. Is it part of that group of kinks which includes mermaid fiction, and overlaps with large slippery smooth things of unnatural size that are forced upon us and make us squee? (I can't really think of a short name for that classification.)

I'm really curious, because I'm wondering what it would take for me to write outside my "kink box." And whether there's even any point--like, if I tried to write a kink that wasn't my own, I'd have to either write my way "into it" so to speak, so that by the end I'd adopted it, or else I'd probably wind up with a story that reads awkwardly to people who honestly hold the kink. I wouldn't want to be a mimic who misses the point. Anyway. If anyone wants to sell the kink, in pimp fashion (why you should watch Invisible Man, why you should accept the OTP of Spike/Angel, why you should embrace the tentacles!), I promise to be anime-eyed with appreciation even if I don't adopt it. *g*

So I'll trade one of my own, which is this whole nape of the neck fetish I have. It's part of this constellation of kinks that are kind of animalistic but more related to ownership, like where the bottom of a pair is taken from behind with both hands pressed against the sheets to hold himself up, and the top doesn't bother to even give him a reach-around, but is probably forcing his head down onto the pillow with one hand against the nape. But then, on a dime, it becomes incredibly shmoopy to me--and I'll have images of two guys, and the more protective one is cupping his partner's neck gently, rubbing it, rubbing his thumb along the side--maybe they're sitting next to each other on a couch, all slouchy and mellow, with other people around, casually socializing, and it's a sign of open affection, but also territorial. And even with the mildest manner in the world, the guy who's doing the handling is saying: oh yeah, he's my bitch, and believe me, he's completely happy about that. And the guy being handled is all heavy-lidded and melty and completely content, and doesn't really care what everyone else knows.

Um, right. Did that skew a little off the point? Moving on now.
 
 
 
raqsraqs on January 18th, 2005 06:10 am (UTC)
i don't do anime and have no tentacle kink, but the appeal of it is obvious to me. something very like a tongue, but longer, stronger, even more flexible? yes please, i'll take two.

tentacles with SUCKERS on, now that, not so much.
Anna S.: angeleliade on January 18th, 2005 06:25 am (UTC)
something very like a tongue, but longer, stronger, even more flexible? yes please, i'll take two.

I never thought of it as a tongue. I feel so...slow. It makes rather more sense now...yes. Yes.

*g*
ex_dovil323 on January 18th, 2005 06:17 am (UTC)
If anyone wants to sell the kink, in pimp fashion (why you should watch Invisible Man, why you should accept the OTP of Spike/Angel, why you should embrace the tentacles!)

I can do the first two because, squee, but the last one just sounds terribly unhygienic. And possibly smelling like eau de octopus.

I'm so vanilla in my gay vamp loving ways. And the neck rubbing thing - completely made me flash back to that gorgeous Spike/Riley story you wrote. And you just know that Bobby/Hobbes or Spike/Angel would be partial to a bit of the old neck fondling which means that I've obviously sold them and I rest my case your honour.

Though a squid sitting on someones shoulder, that could be a lot of tentacle/neck rubbing possibilities there there...
Anna S.: brianeliade on January 18th, 2005 06:27 am (UTC)
I can do the first two because, squee, but the last one just sounds terribly unhygienic. And possibly smelling like eau de octopus.

I like the smell of seawater. If you were under the sea. And the tentacles were looped around your limbs, holding them back like manacles, and the largest one were rubbing up and down between your thighs...see, I'm starting to get the hang of this.

I'm so vanilla in my gay vamp loving ways.

This sentence defines fandom, I think. Or just places it lovingly in a nutshell.

Napes, napes...Snape! Huh.

double-oh-well: snape smirk / nepentheneno_detective on January 18th, 2005 06:48 am (UTC)
Napes, napes...Snape!

Oh dear lord. I will never leave my bunk again.
anonymous_sibyl on January 18th, 2005 07:41 am (UTC)
I like the smell of seawater. If you were under the sea. And the tentacles were looped around your limbs, holding them back like manacles, and the largest one were rubbing up and down between your thighs...see, I'm starting to get the hang of this.

From what I've watched, you're catching on. Except the tentacles are most often attached to plants.

I do think it's the many appendages thing that appeals, though. Not entirely certain.
ex_dovil323 on January 18th, 2005 08:06 am (UTC)
I don't even know who Snape is. When the hell did pop culture leave me behind sprawled in a gutter of ignorance?

"Chef! Chef! My entree is feeling me up!"
Anna S.eliade on January 18th, 2005 05:44 pm (UTC)
I don't even know who Snape is. When the hell did pop culture leave me behind sprawled in a gutter of ignorance?

You're so cute! You're like an alien! ::checks you interestedly for tentacles::

Snape is a major character in the Harry Potter books. *g*
caia: Evil Signal (from the comic Sinfest)thisficklemob on January 18th, 2005 06:39 am (UTC)
A friend of mine has had Hentai Nites where were all sit around, watch Hentai, and remark wittily. Frankly, the tentacle thing does nothing for me either, but if you're wondering why there's so much of it: it has to do with Japanese censorship laws. It used to be they could show tentacles, but not penises. Or something. Or it was about the export laws... they weren't supposed to export stuff with visible penii. I don't precisely remember. I do remember that the censorship laws led to some interesting fucking of light-portals. Very sparkly vaginas, is what I'm saying. (Such that Angel pulling a sword out of a portal in a preview once just looked outrageously porny to me.)

There's so much tentacle porn that my friend made it point to try to track down NON-tentacle porn for Hentai Nites.
Anna S.: brian_justineliade on January 18th, 2005 06:45 am (UTC)
it has to do with Japanese censorship laws. It used to be they could show tentacles, but not penises.

That makes so much sense! I *just* learned, sometime this past week, that Japanese porn couldn't show genitalia. I was--am--still boggled. Maybe this has changed, but I was reading what appeared to be a current online reference. I'd been looking up the term bukkake (sp?). Anyway, yeah, so I was talking about this with people over the weekend, expressing my *buh?!* I just always thought that Japenese culture was more explicit than ours, but apparently the way in which porn operates within a culture doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the content itself. If that makes sense.

Very sparkly vaginas, is what I'm saying.

Which explains so much--all those anime-chick flower twats and such that I've seen but never understood. *g*
caiathisficklemob on January 18th, 2005 06:52 am (UTC)
I just always thought that Japenese culture was more explicit than ours, but apparently the way in which porn operates within a culture doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the content itself. If that makes sense.

It does. Every culture has it's hangups and it's own boundaries, I guess. Seems kinda strange that penises=no, tentacles=yes, and vending machines with used schoolgirl underwear=sure! But there ya' go. Apparently in some places there are also little bookstores in farmers' fields, where you buy porn. Local branch libraries, I've heard them called. *g*

What I find funny is that it seemed like they can show the outer part of the vulva, but not anything inside, so in some cases it would be fucking into a black hole or something. Tres bizarre.

I thought the censorship laws had changed... either that, or internet d'l'ing has made the export censorship less effective... but if they have changed, it wasn't very long ago.
The Alpha Beta: Food Porndiluvian on January 18th, 2005 03:10 pm (UTC)
From what my husband has mentioned, the United States is responsible for the Japanese censorship laws. After WWII the US set up a bunch of "thou shalt not"s (including the "Self Defense" army that supposedly rendered Japan non-agressive) and imposed lovely Puritanical laws on all sorts of things. I believe most of the "Can't show that" laws were repealed about two years ago.

One of the things I haven't seen mentioned here is that depiction of pubic hair was one of the big no-no's. If you look at the "Pillow Books" (ie historical porn) all the genitalia (male & female) is surrounded by wiry fur, and almost all the modern stuff has no fur at all. It's not a matter of simplicity. It was the law. One parody anime series, Keikko Kamen, is all about this kickass super-heroine whose schtick is that she's totally naked except for a hood (with disturbingly Jar-Jar Binks-like floppy ears) and she's basically got a Barbie mound. No fur, no labia. Nipples, but not anything explicit below the beltline.

I've seen a fair amount of anime porn, but I still don't get the tentacle thing. Probably because most of it's non-con, and "girl gets raped by plant" just isn't one of my kinks.
torch: wild thingflambeau on January 18th, 2005 07:22 am (UTC)
My fandom has very cute tentacles.

I'm just saying. :)
Anna S.: cat_chickeneliade on January 18th, 2005 07:43 am (UTC)
That was so...Kafkaesque. Wow. *g* Thank you, baby. Seriously! A mind altering sort of fun, but without toxic chemicals.

You have earned the Cat Prin icon. Hee.
Vera: sweet grope - lanningcopracat on January 18th, 2005 11:29 am (UTC)
So I was channel surfing and paused when I saw The Hustler, and I thought, "Hey, they filmed my old Mulder/Skinner story!"

I racked my brain because this sounded familiar and then it hit me: that's right! You're you! Because, you know, sometimes I forget. :::nostalgia:::
Donnawithdiamonds on January 18th, 2005 01:35 pm (UTC)
I'm so glad you asked about this, because while I share torch's appreciation for the cuteness of my fandom's tentacles, I had no idea it owned it's exsistence to anime. And now I do, so thank you.
kelly_yoyo on January 18th, 2005 05:29 pm (UTC)
I like tentacles, but not in a sexual way. Yet.
...my hand caught his hair running...mousewrites on January 18th, 2005 06:14 pm (UTC)
Hey there.

So, I'm 'outing' myself, I suppose, with the whole tentacle kink. I've got it. My thoughts:


The allure, here, is twofold, I think.

First, you've got the overwhelming aspect. Somebody else mentioned the metaphor of over stimulation, and I think that's apt. What it can boil down to is an orgy, but without all the problems of orgies; no tangle of limbs, relationships, or orgasms. The 'victim' is surrounded and penetrated as completely as possible, and by one overwhelming foe. They can be fucked and sucked and forced to suck, all while being held down. It can be an expression of complete *physical* domination. (not going into mental stuff here.)

Second, it's the 'alien' or 'unnatural' aspect. With the demon personification, you've got the 'I'm evil and fucking you' thing, and with the more Lovecraftian aspect, it's an alien being, using you for its proposes.

You all think I’m insane now, right?

Many people are mentioning plants or fish (octopus aren’t fish, but there ya go) as the source of the tentacles. In 99% of henti that I've seen, the tentacles belong to demons. 99%.

In fic, I've only ever read a few pieces of tentacle goodness. Lachupacabra has "Of Cephalopods and Seaman" "Of Cephalopods & Semen", which IS about both plants and 'fish', but is also about HP lovecraft and is Snape/Draco. I love it more for it's blending of the HP Lovecraft mythos and HP than for it's actual content, though it's written in a style very much like Lovecraftian fiction in general, which endears it to me.

The only other piece of tentacle fic I can think of is Snaples' "Ensnared" (Link to the PSA. Password protected, but easy to get) which is, indeed, plant tentacles, but it follows with what I projected above.

I'd like more examples if people have them...
Anna S.eliade on January 18th, 2005 06:22 pm (UTC)
First, you've got the overwhelming aspect. Somebody else mentioned the metaphor of over stimulation, and I think that's apt. What it can boil down to is an orgy, but without all the problems of orgies; no tangle of limbs, relationships, or orgasms. The 'victim' is surrounded and penetrated as completely as possible, and by one overwhelming foe. They can be fucked and sucked and forced to suck, all while being held down. It can be an expression of complete *physical* domination. (not going into mental stuff here.)

I just had to quote back all that, because that really conveys the appeal--and when you add in the idea that it's a demon, it helps a lot to sell it. Thank you! I will check out at least the first story rec. :>D
Barbrahirah on January 19th, 2005 04:04 am (UTC)
(surveys vast tentacle-filled sea of kink, slinks away in vanilla shame)
rubywisp: nick this is sex by kamilaarubywisp on January 23rd, 2005 06:20 am (UTC)
I meant to respond to this ages ago, and it's not with anything that actually rates waiting days and days to say, but there you go.

I share your neck fetish. Licking and nibbling and sucking and just a wide, warm palm on the back of a bowed, pale neck, fingers curling just under the edge of where Spike's hair bursts free of the gel and... ::sigh:: Yeah. Like that.