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08 May 2004 @ 05:07 pm
that's so not right.  
The Mystery channel keeps promoting an inexplicable line-up of movies like Austin Powers and Undercover Brother by calling them "madcap mysteries." Right. In that vein, Scream isn't a horror movie, it's a "comedy of death" and Lord of the Rings is a "western" because they're on horseback and American Pie is a "documentary of raw humor" and Bull Durham is a "musical of the heart" and Lost in Translation is "film-noir without the crime" or maybe a "war movie about the clash of cultures."

And Mulder/Scully is slash.

I know you guys can come up with more of these, far better than mine. Yes? Please? No?

ETA: The Mystery channel is now showing John Carpenter's Vampires with Jon Bon Jovi. Which is apparently not horror, but a supernatural mystery. Pinheads.
niqaeli on May 8th, 2004 05:16 pm (UTC)
Bwaa! metaquotes'd this.
all right, so you're nonchalant: american gothicrunpunkrun on May 8th, 2004 05:30 pm (UTC)
I could argue that "Scream" IS a comedy of death (if perhaps a failed one), and that Mulder/Scully IS slash (if you look at the subtext rather than the gender), but I don't feel like arguing today. Too sleepy.
Anna S.eliade on May 8th, 2004 05:42 pm (UTC)
Scream is often very funny but it doesn't even really qualify as a black comedy for me. There's just no way the defining emphasis can be comedy. Clay Pigeons is black comedy, one with a lot of death.

The Mulder/Scully mention was more a joke than anything. *g* I've been known to talk about the slashiness of Spike/Buffy. I still don't consider either of them slash though and I still harbor tiny memory-grains of irritation over seeing M/S labeled slash on the Gossamer archive back in the day. If I saw a het story called slash these days, I'd shake my head and buy someone a clue. It's false advertising, which is what the Mystery channel is doing, obviously because they have these films on their hands and want to show them, rather than, say, shelling out a few extra bucks to air Strangers on a Train or The Fugitive. It's one thing to challenge genres or paradigm-shift as a discussion tactic, another thing to air Groundhog Day as a "mystery of comic existentialism" or post a Willow/Giles story as slash.

I'm never up to arguing except when I find myself arguing a point anyway. Damn me! And I am also sleepy. *g*
all right, so you're nonchalant: goddamned supermanrunpunkrun on May 8th, 2004 06:06 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it's totally false advertising. I'm constantly amazed at some of the things the Sci-Fi Channel airs. I mean even "The Sentinel" was more fantasy than SF, but, like you, I'm talking about things that had nothing to do with SF at all. I of course can't remember an example, but it'd be exactly like them airing "Scream" and trying to pretend that fake homicidal ghosts are science-fiction.

And as slashy as Mulder and Scully are, I'd never post an M/S fic as "slash." Because that's just wrong.
Anna S.: scary_girleliade on May 8th, 2004 06:09 pm (UTC)
Oh god, Sci-Fi, you're so right--I've noticed that too, and now I can't think of an example either. But they are definitely a prime offender.

Of course, right now they're showing T2 and I'm staring at the meaty backs of Ahnold's thighs, so...actually, I had no point to that thought.
light of other days: bonghitsiliadawry on May 8th, 2004 06:55 pm (UTC)
I'll accept fantasy on Sci-Fi largely because AFAIK, there's no other outlet for fantasy (the Fantasy Channel has boobies!) and anyway, it's "sci-fi/fantasy" in all the bookstores. Unicorns, robots, it's all one anyway, right?

Or, you know, something. I am a robot unicorn!
niqaeli on May 8th, 2004 07:25 pm (UTC)
Science fiction and fantasy have been intertwined for decades. Organised fandom has always been for both, and while you have devotees who read one and not the other, most fen read both.

When I speak of fandom, though, I don't mean online fandom. I'm talking about the 'zines and conventions that started back in the twenties and thirties. Online fandom is a lot more splintered and tends to focus on not even just on a single genre, but single books and series.
light of other daysiliadawry on May 8th, 2004 07:39 pm (UTC)
*nods* Oh, I agree wholeheartedly. I was just referring to not thinking it's false advertising when the Sci-Fi Channel shows Legend or something.
(Anonymous) on May 8th, 2004 10:59 pm (UTC)
Sci Fi Channel has been known to show Braveheart, the Mel Gibson scots historical drama. I suspect the kilts confused them into thinking it was yet another Highlander sequel.

A Random Lurker.
yonmei on May 9th, 2004 12:09 am (UTC)
Which is fair enough. Braveheart is fantasy, after all.

/tongue in cheek
dodyskin on May 9th, 2004 07:01 am (UTC)
Braveheart is fantasy, after all.
)Hee. There is a whole subculture of sites about this online. I recently read a page detailing eighteen gross inaccuracies in the film, and that was just the first two minutes.
(Also known as "That Film Whose Name Shall Not Be Uttered", or TFWNSNBU.

Slantslanted_truths on May 9th, 2004 12:15 am (UTC)
Hmm, you mean like this?
Titanic, a "historical study of the real story of the Titanic, with a new theory on why the iceberg wasn't avoided."
Huh weird, out of idle curiosity I went to yahoo and checked out the entertainment listings. The put some titles under the strangest categories.
Scream was under: Directory > Entertainment > Movies and Film > Titles > Horror > Mystery
I guess that's what'll be playing next on the mystery channel.
Apparently Beetlejuice and Scary Movie are dark comedies.
Oh, an Children of the Corn? Demonic.
What next, Harry Potter as a supernatural thriller/mystery?

BTW: Your previous three posts? Had me laughing out loud in a crowded on campus computer lab.
Sammy: gladiatoren - my fandom has it alllittlesammy on May 9th, 2004 01:07 am (UTC)
And Mulder/Scully is slash.

The really scary thing is that there are so many people who argue that it is. ::shudders::
dodyskin on May 9th, 2004 07:11 am (UTC)
I was watching, despite myself, channel four the other day. The programme was one of those list things, 100 Sexiest Moments. I swear they just put together a random clip show of some women in bikinis. Yeah, everyone sees sexiness differently but, honestly, You wouldn't put a hundred clips of people saying, "the" or, "when" and call it 100 Greatest Lines of Dialogue. /rant