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29 April 2004 @ 09:55 pm
here in my living room...  
...is my space for obsessive thoughts.

Went to get groceries, still thinking about X/S and Searing Love and Stormy Hearts and other things that would make good bodice-ripper titles, but which I'm thinking about as a certain emotional level and tone, hovering somewhere south of melodrama and soap opera but up in the gilded clouds even so. When I think of stuff like this I always think of Jackon's S/X story, Sweet Revenge, which has an emotional high point where the guys work themselves up into a messy, frustrated fury and have sex in a thunderstorm. I need to reread that. Without getting into a story-ranking game, I'm just saying: not a lot of stories work up to that sort of whammy. It's like the author has vigorously shaken up a bottle of beer and then twists the cap off--fwwoashhhhhhh. And I don't get this: in all my head-based fantasies, I achieve that sort of intensity *constantly*, but in my writing, almost never. So bemusing.

But I don't think of myself as an angstophile. I think of myself as having a schmoop orientation. I like happy endings and nuzzling. I just think it takes a lot of work to get there. Work which involves guys thrashing each other and snarking and having bitter misunderstandings and pushing through the dislike until they break on through to the other side and eventually wind up wearing each other's clothes and finishing each other's sentences.

"Kate & Leopold" is on cable. Meg Ryan's character really is cranky in this movie. It's a weird movie. I like it quite a lot, in some parts more than others. It's rather muddled, but it's muddleheadedness is more interesting than the slickness of other movies. It has Liev Schreiber *and* Hugh Jackman, and this guy named Breckin Meyer: Stuart, Leopold, and Charlie. And it's your average hetero Hollywood happy story, but it gets distracted by other interests. So, get this: Stuart goes back in time and is delightedly snapping shots of nineteenth-century society with his mini camera. He takes pictures of Leopold at a ceremony. Leopold notices him, approaches; Stuart runs away coyly, then turns up later at a ball. Leopold sees him *again* and gives chase--horseback ride, crashing storm, the scaling of a tower, some daring rescue action, and they fall together back through a time portal. Stuart drags the unconscious Leopold home and does a hurt/comfort clucky thing over him, tucking him into a blanket, etc, which his ex-girlfriend witnesses and mistakes for a liaison. Next morning Stuart and Leopold have some by-play (not bi-play, sadly), then Stuart goes off and falls down an elevator shaft. (This movie was written by someone with ADD.) So Leopold hangs around the apartment, figures out how modern appliances work, watches the dog, and then this little kid comes in, a kid that Stuart usually looks after on Wednesdays or something, and Leopold entertains him by telling the story of the Pirates of Penzance--and as he *does*, Charlie hears him and comes downstairs by the fire escape and watches, unnoticed, with this big awed grin on his face--he's *captivated* by Leopold. He spends the rest of the movie following him around like a puppy and trying to emulate him, even though he does go all goofy over a girl, blah blah.

Basically, here's the thing: in your average chick flick, you rarely get so many scenes where the male characters are alone together and bonding with *each other* in a way that has *nothing to do* with the romantic plotline.

I am full of self-distraction tonight, to no end. The end.

Also, GIP. By kjv31.

Also, did I mention this movie has Bradley Whitford? Yeah.

ETA: Where IS everyone tonight?
 
 
 
rubywisp: lj wanktastic by ?rubywisp on April 29th, 2004 10:03 pm (UTC)
I just think it takes a lot of work to get there. Work which involves guys thrashing each other and snarking and having bitter misunderstandings and pushing through the dislike until they break on through to the other side and eventually wind up wearing each other's clothes and finishing each other's sentences.

Ah, god yes. I love the happy ending, but the fics I like best are full of the snark and the biting and the bitter along the way. It's a necessary part of the Spander experience for me. And the working and the getting there? In many ways, the best part.

I adore Kate and Leopold. Now that my VCR's dead, I really need to get it on DVD.
Anna S.eliade on April 29th, 2004 10:06 pm (UTC)
Your icon!

*dies*

Actually I learned just the other day that you in fact *can* have too many orgasms. After a while you just get...sore. /TMI

And the working and the getting there? In many ways, the best part.

Totally! :)


rubywisp: xander bruised darlingrubywisp on April 29th, 2004 10:13 pm (UTC)
I'm glad you got a kick out of the icon. I didn't make it; didn't even discover it - that honor goes to entrenous88. I don't think we've discovered who made it yet, but it cracks me up every time I see it.

I don't think I've ever managed sore. Sort of hormonally-drunk and dizzy, yes, but not sore.

I want to write long, sarcastic, sniping Spander fics where they eventually end up snuggled together in a ridiculously large bed doing something ridiculously cozy like listening to the rain during a momentary lull in their eternal bickering. But I haven't quite mastered the art of being patient with them yet. I'm constantly flicking my fingers at them and telling them to get the fuck on with it, already.
Anna S.: xander_laideliade on April 29th, 2004 10:16 pm (UTC)
I want to write long, sarcastic, sniping Spander fics where they eventually end up snuggled together in a ridiculously large bed doing something ridiculously cozy like listening to the rain during a momentary lull in their eternal bickering.

Oh my god, are you trying to kill me with the happy?

*mewl*

(Meanwhile I am looking at Hugh Jackman in a tux, smiling gently and lit by candlelight. What a beautiful man.)
rubywisprubywisp on April 29th, 2004 10:20 pm (UTC)
Oh my god, are you trying to kill me with the happy?

Not particularly, no. I kind of like having you around. *g*

I would write it for you, if I could. If I could persuade myself to make it last longer than twenty pages.

Clearly, I need to trade my attention span in for a longer one. *insert obligatory penis joke here*

Even if K&L wasn't as cute as it was, I would adore it for the pretty. HJ takes my breath away.
Anna S.: city_lightningeliade on April 29th, 2004 10:23 pm (UTC)
Not particularly, no. I kind of like having you around. *g*

*kiss*

I would write it for you, if I could. If I could persuade myself to make it last longer than twenty pages.

Someday, maybe. Keep it tucked away in the sock drawer of your brain, okay?

Even if K&L wasn't as cute as it was, I would adore it for the pretty. HJ takes my breath away.

Every man should be so well-tailored. Plus he's got the floppy-haired thing going, at least in the scene on screen right now. But more simply: he is the yummy.
rubywisp: spander blank by essenerubywisp on April 29th, 2004 10:34 pm (UTC)
The sock drawer of my brain is stuffed to bursting. I need to get cracking. *g*

I still have to get back to that h/c S/X fic that I started for LadyCat. I got swamped by ficathons and real life, but I know where I'm going with it, and want to see it finished reasonably soon. Time-wise, not length-wise; I'm making a conscious effort with that fic to slow down and take my time, and let it take how long it takes to tell the story I want to tell. I'm not saying it's easy, but it seems to be happening.

I think my mom was right. I think I do have ADD. At least I think so sometimes. ;)

Man. I'm having serious K&L cravings now. I think I must visit ye olde Netflix.
Anna S.eliade on April 29th, 2004 10:38 pm (UTC)
I feel I should note, though: Liev Schreiber makes the movie for me. He is just...yowza. I think I like him as an actor because he always looks like he might suddenly snap and kill whoever he's talking to, and also because he looks too intelligent for his own good, as if he's got all these dark thoughts going on behind his eyes. Dark and sardonic and a bit existentially depressed--yum.

And in the movie, in the scene where he talks about time travel and makes the nurse cry, I cry too. He takes over the movie whenever the camera is on him, and in that scene he suddenly grabs it and elevates it about three miles, changing the tone completely.
rubywisp: gunn big damn hero by soft_princessrubywisp on April 29th, 2004 11:09 pm (UTC)
Liev Schreiber absolutely mesmerized me the first time I saw this movie. I can remember sitting in the theater and wondering who he was, where I'd seen him before (Jakob the Liar, which I never did finish, but apparently Liev made an impression even just from the bits I saw.)

I saw a preview for The Manchurian Candidate when I went to see... damn. What did I go see? I took the kids to something. Ah, hell, I can't remember. Anyway, I saw the preview and in spite of my love for Denzel, I'm kind of meh about it. But then I noticed that LS is in it, and decided I may have to give it a shot after all.
Anna S.eliade on April 29th, 2004 11:15 pm (UTC)
He's in Scream 2 as well, which is where I first saw him--lowbrow, I know, but he has this amazing intensity. His character is great. I've got this feeling, totally unsubstantiated, that the director et al must have shot some footage of him for the first film then cut it (a la Kevin Costner in "The Big Chill") but been so amazed by him that they decided to write him into the sequel.

Even if untrue, it's plausible. *g*
rubywisp: emmett pride by elfianjoyrubywisp on April 29th, 2004 11:18 pm (UTC)
He's in Scream 2 as well

Really? *squeals* I only ever watched the first one; liked it well enough, but I've never been a horror movie fan (although I seem to be developing a taste for it, oddly enough), so the mocking didn't hold as much interest for me as it could have, and I never bothered to watch the others.

Shame on me.

*goes back to Netflix*
rubywisp: angel pretty by dellamorerubywisp on April 29th, 2004 11:21 pm (UTC)
*goes back to Netflix*

Though I suppose all this futzing and fiddling with my rental queue won't do me a bit of good until I turn in the three discs I've had for the last month. (Freaky Friday; QAF S3, disc 3; Uptown Girls. Dakota Fanning is preternaturally self-possessed and extremely adorable.)
(Anonymous) on May 1st, 2004 07:38 am (UTC)
[quote] I feel I should note, though: Liev Schreiber makes the movie for me. [/quote]

He's got a fun role in the Clancy flick The Sum of all Fears. Sadly Ben Affleck, the talentless lump, is also in it and has a bigger role.

Sadly the female lead, Brigit Moynihan, earned her 25th spot billing by being less interesting that even Ben. Her Indian friend at the hospital (played by Pragna Desai) was more interesting in a 12 second appearance.

Apropos of nothing, John Malkovich will be playing Lord Voldemort in Potter IV. I think Malkovich is too scary for the role...

Set
Darcy: gandsdarcydodo on April 29th, 2004 10:13 pm (UTC)
Wait... there are references to Gilbert & Sullivan in Kate & Leopold? Now I have to see this movie!!
Anna S.eliade on April 29th, 2004 10:17 pm (UTC)
Yes, go watch--it has pretty men and oddness and time-travel and a big dog. :)
Darcy: bionic mandarcydodo on April 29th, 2004 10:21 pm (UTC)
I think the big dog's sold me on it. ;)

I'll rent it at some point: one of my friends has been expressing a feeling of chick-flick deprivation, anyway.
torchflambeau on April 30th, 2004 12:35 am (UTC)
Searing hearts! (Isn't that somewhere in To Serve Man?) You always make me want to watch movies. They sound more fun when you describe them than they ever do when I hesitate outside the video rental place.
Erin: false sense of securitytingler on April 30th, 2004 02:21 am (UTC)
"Kate & Leopold" is on cable. Meg Ryan's character really is cranky in this movie.

Isn't she though? She's easy to look at, sure, but her character was so *prickly*. In retrospect, I can see why, but when I was watching I couldn't figure out her appeal to the guys. Well, except, y'know, easy to look at. *g* Then again, I would've hung out with her just for the bitch sessions over coffee.

Speaking of which, there's that scene where Leopold is out on the couch, all long legs and unconscious helplessness that *really* gets to me.
Cat: current christinaevilprettykitty on April 30th, 2004 06:04 am (UTC)
You know, I fell asleep in the theater the first time I saw K&L but I've watched it on cable a lot and my affection for it growseach time. I think it is all the male bonding moments.
grackles on April 30th, 2004 08:07 am (UTC)
Honestly I didn't think her character was that cranky, which says something about my own character, I guess. I enjoyed the movie too, I rented it and watched it yesterday. Weird.
Anna S.eliade on April 30th, 2004 09:38 am (UTC)
I think I'm mostly thrown by the scene in the kitchen when she just wigs out really rudely and not at all endearingly. It's not that her crankiness is hard to understand. That's what I was watching when I wrote the comment, anyway. ;>)
grackles on April 30th, 2004 10:08 am (UTC)
Oh yeah, I thought that was a tad harsh myself. Forgot about that little moment.
spankys on May 1st, 2004 10:44 am (UTC)
Jackson (not JackMAN)
On a different note, Jackson has an lj now http://www.livejournal.com/users/jackson_rayne/. Her latest entry is a pre BtVS Xander/Jesse. I know people say stuff like this all the time, but I never liked X/J until this story. It's sweet, but deep (if you know what I mean), with a teeny-tiny bit of angst.

Oh yeah, angst is my bullet-proof kink, if that can be called a kink. The characters (who am I kidding, it's only Xander/Spike or Clark/Lex for me) have to go through the torture to get to the happy. wiseacress is a master at that, even if she sometimes ( most of the time) forgets to add the happy. Also, your Sidelines series is great at that. Particularly where you've left it. And I keep reading the Xander-in-Japan chapter of Subtleties because of the angsty goodness.

Marie
Trepkostrepkos on May 6th, 2004 11:52 am (UTC)
Where IS everyone tonight?
I was being a big geek by going to a Buffy/Firefly con. in Blackpool.
And by the way, Nick Brendon said that when he works out how to use the internet, "sure, I'll check out the hot Spike and Xander sex" (or words to that effect). So neither JM nor NB mind their characters being asked to perform outside canon...