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31 October 2003 @ 09:52 pm
okay.  
I'm watching "Halloween H20" and apparently there's this drug company that makes something called "Levitra," who thought that a horror movie about a knife-wielding psychotic with childhood sexual issues was the ideal match for product placement. So I watch this commercial a few times, and I notice that not once do they actually say what their drug *does*. They just remark with a wink and a nod: "Sometimes you need help staying in the game," and show a guy tossing a football through a gyrating vaginal hole moving tire swing, and you're supposed to intuit what the drug is for. I googled it just to be sure, but yes, it is an anti-impotence drug--and if you use it, you too can sink your ball through the hole.

It kills me though--the idea that men will watch this and just *know* what the pill is for, without a single explicit reference.

It's 10 p.m. and already my cable stations have dried up and there's nothing of interest playing in the genre du jour. Where's the terror? Bastards. On the WE channel, they're doing a special on the allure of vampires to women, interviewing Anne Rice and Marti Noxon.

I think I might go to bed early....

ETA: Stephanie Romanov has at least one commentary spot on the vampire special. And there are many, many goth girls. (This is called "Night Bites" by the way. It's really not especially interesting, though. Like I didn't know already that vampires were associated with seduction.)
 
 
 
Brassy Hagmiggy on October 31st, 2003 10:05 pm (UTC)
I heard that RX advertising laws mean that companies can either advertise the effects of their drug, or the name of their drug, but not both. So you want to be known by something else (like Prilosec and the purple pill, or Viagra and the blue) so that you can point to your drug and say all the scary wonderful things it'll do to your system. I don't know if there are loopholes -- seems like there would rather have to be -- but it would explain a lot of the weirdness I've seen.
Anna S.: kandinskyeliade on October 31st, 2003 10:09 pm (UTC)
Huh. I could swear I've seen prescription allery commercials where they give the name & then detail at great length the effects. But maybe they just displayed the name in text or something. Which is what I'm guessing you mean when you say it's either/or. (Because if they couldn't even print the name, er, how would people know what to ask for?)
Brassy Hagmiggy on October 31st, 2003 10:11 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it's likely a loophole like that. You can say one and print the other, blah blah blah. Or you can get out of listing some side effects if you only do one. The pharmaceutical industry is big and mighty and scary and I try not to think about it too much.
Herself_nycherself_nyc on November 1st, 2003 12:33 pm (UTC)
Miggy is correct. The law is that unless you're advertising in a medium where you can include the brief summary of Prescribing Information (that's the long page of tiny black type on white with all the nitty gritty details) you can either say the drug name, OR the indication (ie, what condition it treats and what it does). NEVER both. So for TV commercials and radio and signage, that's the rule. Magazine ads can say more.
Tuesday Has No Phonesthebratqueen on October 31st, 2003 10:11 pm (UTC)
Close, it's that if they advertise what the drug does they also have to advertise all the side effects. If they just say "Ask your doctor about Mimbloxex" then they don't have to include the bit about "Common side effects include loss of ears and the habit of hiccuping the word 'puppy' every two seconds."
Brassy Hagmiggy on October 31st, 2003 10:12 pm (UTC)
Aha! I knew it was something sneaky like that. Gah, thinking about mind-altering drugs hurts my head too much.

*instead goes back to making Buffy icons with Friends quotes, like a sane person*
Anna S.: scary_girleliade on October 31st, 2003 10:15 pm (UTC)
"Common side effects include loss of ears and the habit of hiccuping the word 'puppy' every two seconds."

God I hate when that happens. Or, worse, when you grow puppy ears. Not that they aren't cute, but...man, why am I not in bed yet?

Because I need smut.
Tuesday Has No Phones: angelbotthebratqueen on October 31st, 2003 10:22 pm (UTC)
God I hate when that happens. Or, worse, when you grow puppy ears. Not that they aren't cute, but...

I don't mind as long as they're the floopy kind. The sticky-uppy kind just make my head look weird.

man, why am I not in bed yet?

I'm asking myself that same question. About me, I mean, I don't monitor your sleep habits. Well not anymore anyway. I've got the spreadsheet I can refer to.

Because I need smut.

Angel pressed Spike's body up against the wall. The younger vampire groaned, pressing right back.

"Piss off," he snarled.

"Make me," Angel replied. He knocked Spike's legs apart with his thigh, then thrust himself in with the ease of years of practice. "Gotta fuck something, Spike, and right now it's you or - "

"I'm good with me," Spike said, looking irritated with himself for admitting it. It was hard to tell beyond the flickering smile that crept in as Angel's cock hit its mark. "I mean - if you have to. Pillock."

Another thrust. "Shut up boy."

"Well all right."
Anna S.: weseliade on October 31st, 2003 10:26 pm (UTC)
Ooohhhh. Smut...mmm. I have been working at an Angel/Spike fantasy in my head, but it's thwarting my efforts and I think I have to let it go. It turned stupid quickly. I tried to tart Spike up as an accomplished courtesan. He wouldn't play though.

I need a story. A story for my head....
Tuesday Has No Phones: rswesthebratqueen on October 31st, 2003 10:28 pm (UTC)
Spike as a bitter washed-up attempted to fight on the side of good souled vampire, drinking and smoking alone in a bar, when Wes walks in wearing a dressed to kill suit and spots him.

And... go!
Anna S.eliade on October 31st, 2003 10:30 pm (UTC)
Yes! I am just sad enough that I will in fact go take this seed of a vision to bed with me now. Thank you & g'night. *g*
Tuesday Has No Phones: angelbotthebratqueen on October 31st, 2003 10:34 pm (UTC)
[tucks you in. goes to bed herself]
do you want orcs? because this is how you get orcskita0610 on October 31st, 2003 10:08 pm (UTC)
Marti Noxon?

Now *that's* the single scariest thing I've heard all night.
Anna S.: spikeeliade on October 31st, 2003 10:13 pm (UTC)
Hey, you knockin' the Noxon? Cuz that's just too, too easy, man. *g*

I need smut. I've read all kinds of S/X stories today, and yet I am a greedy bitch and want more. Or Spike/anyone. Spike/Dave Barry. Just dear god, I need some hot slash.

Okay, maybe not Dave Barry.
do you want orcs? because this is how you get orcs: OTfuckinPkita0610 on October 31st, 2003 10:16 pm (UTC)
New stuff up at Slashing The Angel. Maybe some will suit.

Didn't get yours up yet, because wanted to ask:

A. Is it anywhere in one place? Or at least all linked to in one place?

B. Do you have any liner notes you want with it?
Anna S.eliade on October 31st, 2003 10:18 pm (UTC)
I'll try to remember to put it up on a page for you tomorrow, 'kay? :)

By the way, just saw Marti give a minute or two of commentary and really, she's pretty adorable.
Anna S.eliade on October 31st, 2003 10:20 pm (UTC)
Hmmm. This link doesn't work:

http://ficbitch.com/slashingtheangel/sacred.html

Also, dude...I totally don't remember this scene I'm watching, where Lilah and Angel kiss and fall onto a desk and he bites her. I wonder if that was a dream sequence. Huh.
Tuesday Has No Phones: angelbotthebratqueen on October 31st, 2003 10:26 pm (UTC)
You mean Carpe Noctem?
Anna S.eliade on October 31st, 2003 10:28 pm (UTC)
Perhaps. I haven't watched early S3 in quite a while I must admit. Maybe I will dig out tapes tomorrow. Thanks! :)
Tuesday Has No Phones: angelbotthebratqueen on October 31st, 2003 10:29 pm (UTC)
These are the braincells that I could be using to rule the world, you realize.
drcdrc1 on November 1st, 2003 03:36 am (UTC)
Psssst....
glace: ricky desertaproposofnothin on November 1st, 2003 09:10 am (UTC)
Ew, Levitra. Their logo is a little flame vulva. Ew. Did they think no one would notice that?




Why are there no FDA-approved drugs to enhance female sex drive? That's a rhetorical question, mostly, but if one ever comes out I definitely want genitalia-specific logos.
tesserae_ on November 1st, 2003 09:18 am (UTC)
It kills me though--the idea that men will watch this and just *know* what the pill is for, without a single explicit reference.

Back in the day when they showed cigarette commercials on TV (yeah, I'm old enough to remember that!) they were advertised with imagery that included things like trains going into tunnels. George Carlin noted that you don't really need to be Fellini to figure this stuff out.... They just do it with graphics now, which makes it even creepier when you deconstruct it. I'm with you on the "ewww"!