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15 October 2003 @ 10:48 pm
Angel 5.3  


And that's really all I have to say.

Uhhhh...well, okay. Really, when it comes to Smallville, I can expend a lot of thoughtful natter on it (well, thoughtful for me, not thoughtful relative to some of the brilliant analysis that gets done by the hard-core SV fans), because I'm less emotionally invested, but when it comes to Angel, I find myself focusing on incredibly trivial stuff and ignoring other things that might get under my skin if I think about them.

Not a very interesting plot. And as everyone says: why no mention of Oz? And why if you're going to bring up the Initiative, wouldn't you then go on to try and theorize that there might in fact be a connection--sure, the theory would have proved false, but wouldn't it be a *reasonable* starting point? But we don't get that, and why? Because apparently the network suits assume that there are two entirely different, non-overlapping audiences for Angel and BtVS. The network is staffed by morons who grub for ratings like pigs for truffles. I mean, seriously. BtVS is *over*, guys. You can say whatever the fuck you *want*. Like, for instance, where are the hundreds of *slayers* who got zapped into existence just a month or so ago in your wonky timeline?

(I have to say though, that "Cleveland" was a stroke of genius for BtVS, because it gives the Scooby gang one of the few plausible reasons there could have been for them not to immediately head en masse to L.A. That and the destroyed council, which is a good explanation for where Giles, Willow, and Buffy are at least. And hey, we got a nod to that, if not to the council's destruction itself--which in a sane, continuity-rich world would have been mentioned more than once now by Wes and probably Angel, because when it comes to the battle of good versus evil, the ramifications are pretty fucking *huge*. Do we think that tidbit of info got mindwiped? This was all a tangent.)

So anyway. Yeah. I mourn for lost continuity opportunities. Plus, WereWoman was just as dull as I feared, though I was fascinated by her Sharon Stone resemblance all through the episode.

Nice addition to our body of knowledge on werewolves, and really, an interesting spin on the question of to what degree ww's are inherently evil or not because of their curse, and how they might be able to control themselves. If it's just a matter of locking yourself up for 3 nights a month, you have to wonder how many people are out there hiding and maintaining cover. As a retcon, it kind of makes you wonder about Oz's plight as he perceived it. Are we to think that because there are more than one species of ww, the effects might differ? [Edited to add, I seem to have missed the dialogue about how the species *did* differ. Heh. So very unsurprising.] Because werechick seemed just as violent as Oz, no more, no less, though she did just knock Gunn over rather than going for his throat. And yet for Oz, it became this pivotal life-altering angst that sent him away from the woman he loved, and for werechick...not so much. (At least, not so much if this is the last we see of her.) Of course, people's reactions to the affliction are probably going to vary widely. It's not that I have a big problem with the differences as they're presented. It's just food for thought.

Have to wonder if this is really a one-off, or a set-up for a season-long Angel romance. Dear god, I hope not the latter. But if the former, a waste of time.

Wes...there are no words for how much I wanted to wrestle the man to the ground and just paw him and lick him like a big obnoxious dog. Me being the dog, just so we're clear. Dear god. Dear *god*. When we got that last shot of him with the gun, I gave a scream. I did. I could no longer contain myself, with the brimming joy at his scruff and leather.

The fake-out on the Wes/Spike backstory nearly killed me. That was so fucking cruel, I could weep. It's not lost on me that those two are basically playing an utter lack of interest in each other so far. Sigh. Someone else mentioned that Spike had not wanted to talk to Wes because everything he told Wes would get shared with Angel--I must have missed that, blipped the reference. Didn't hear it.

Spike not doing much for me here I have to say, until his last scene with Fred. He seems both overwritten and badly written. Sadness. Am looking forward to next week, though. With trepidation, but still.

I liked the song, but then I've liked it for a long time and know it only from the CD and not from, er, Dawson's Creek or whatever else it might have been slapped onto previously.

The ending was, I thought, meant to be both warming and disturbing. Because it is so very much like the visions that opened last season--everyone sitting around together happily, sharing food--or preparing to--and yet both Connor and Cordy are missing, and we know that except for Angel, no one is even aware of Connor's absence. There seems to be a tacit agreement to avoid talking about Cordelia's. And that's just fucked up on so many levels. There's no *way* we were supposed to take that scene at face value--maybe if you started watching just this season, but otherwise...jesus.

Wes getting as close to outright flirtation with Angel as he's ever going to. Weird. Wes showing his Fred issues in full color. Weird. And no reaction from Gunn. So, not synching up yet. All just very disturbing.

Poor Spike. I think I will go to bed now and allow Wes to kiss his way slowly down his vampire's spine and then do exquisitely lewd things to him.
 
 
 
Bright!  And shiny!calendae on October 15th, 2003 10:53 pm (UTC)
One thought on why they may not have mentioned Oz. The older scientist guy, who I kind of liked until he was exposed as evil (Do all of the evil people have to be older, somewhat unattractive men?), mentioned that this was a different species of werewolf. One that was bipedal and more vicious than the four-legged type.

Doesn't really excuse the non-mention, but could, in all probability, be a reason ME brought up the difference between the two species of werewolf.

Of course, I'm completely drunk right now...so none of this makes sense anyway. Sorry.
Estee: the gay mathfoo_faedra on October 15th, 2003 10:56 pm (UTC)
The fake-out on the Wes/Spike backstory nearly killed me.

Nearly did me in, too. Fucking cockteasers.
Jimmy Petstore: i feel cheap.snoopypez on October 15th, 2003 10:56 pm (UTC)
I utterly fell for the backstory. Got all excited and everything. ;P Meanies.

After that, however, I just spent the whole episode snarling over how no one seemed that desperate to care about/help OZ with HIS wolfiness. No one cared that he "let the monster win" by seperating himself from the ones he loved. >.< And I could go on, but I shall spare you, because.. wow, off the topic. heh.

..I hope you're planning to *write* some of that yummy Wes/Spike stuff sometime. :D
light of other daysiliadawry on October 16th, 2003 12:06 am (UTC)
I think Oz' departure was a different case though -- he was doing something more along the lines of going to get treatment (even if he didn't know where) and return (which he did), and people knew he was going (and why he was going) even if it hurt them. Nina, on the other hand, was just going to disappear, no explanations or anything -- which strikes me as a very different thing to do.
Jimmy Petstore: boosnoopypez on October 16th, 2003 12:10 am (UTC)
Shhh. I don't need logic like that. ;) You're right, of course. I just have a bias for Oz. I miss him. Yes, still. :P

Er, on topic for the episode, hey! Wes with guns! ;D
Wolfling: nakedwesleywolfling on October 16th, 2003 07:52 am (UTC)
Someone else mentioned that Spike had not wanted to talk to Wes because everything he told Wes would get shared with Angel--I must have missed that, blipped the reference. Didn't hear it.

That might've been me. It was more implication than actually coming out and saying that -- Fred wanted to go to Wes, Spike said no, he didn't want other people knowing, he didn't want it to get back to Angel. But since the other person they're talking about is Wesley...

The "I have history with Wes" had me for about two seconds until he started going on about it being when Wes was fresh from Watcher academy and getting all dramatic. Because Wes, much as I love the boy in all his incarnations, was a prat back then. So I was calling bullshit before Fred did.

But still it was a cute bit. :)
My Beautiful Sinking Ship: she saved me toobitterbyrden on October 16th, 2003 10:59 am (UTC)
Again with the "yeah, totally" on the badly- and over-written. I'm embarassed, kinda, because they are taking a pretty developed character and ruining it, not to mention playing into the Angel fans who were furious about Spike being brought in.

Angel just doesn't work for me as a show! I'm going to stick with it, but... hurrumph. I miss Buffy.

And, about Smallville -- I thought the bullet penetration was pretty sweet, but, other than that, the episode was kinda meh.

1) Why are the Kents growing corn in their garden when they have cornfields?

2) Why would Clark tell Pete but not Lana? Oh, for the sake of drama? WHY MUST TELEVISION MANIPULATE ME SO!?
ellen_fremedon on October 16th, 2003 04:16 pm (UTC)
To answer the one answerable question *g*, because field corn and sweet corn are different plants bred for different purposes.