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30 September 2003 @ 08:54 pm
school hard  
- The Spike/Dru/Sheila scene strikes me as an homage to "Natural Born Killers."

- I just realized for the first time (am I slow? yeah, always) that someone must have gone all the way back to this ep to play with Spike's mother issues in "Lies My Parents Told Me." It totally makes sense that someone on the ME writing staff said, "You know, why did Spike exclaim 'Women!' and run away when Buffy's mom hit him on the head? Why didn't he keep fighting?" It being so unmanly and all; really *not* vicious and ruthless as he was supposed to be then. And at the end he says: "A slayer with family and friends--that wasn't in the brochure." Well, okay, so what? He could have killed them all. Is it that he *respects* those ties?

- Why doesn't Angel warn Buffy properly about who Spike is? Why so coy? He's rarely very proactive in helping her with stuff, early on.

- Willow's expression as Cordelia prays in the broom closet is priceless. "Ask for some aspirin."

- Spike is anti-ritual, the kind of guy who stirs things up. He comes in at the beginning of the ep in game face and you get the feeling it's a *thing*, it's what you do when you meet strange vamps, to prove yourself one of them. And a lot of his other behavior comes off that way too, as a posture to ensure that he gets respect and deference. But he knows how to show it. He kneels to the anointed one--first incidence of Spike on his knees--but then, yay, offs him.

- "What's a sire?" Cool that they just let that hang unanswered. Let the viewers define it as they will.

- The last line is a classic. "Let's see what's on TV." Love it.
Tuesday Has No Phones: glassesthebratqueen on September 30th, 2003 09:17 pm (UTC)
I think the family and friends line was meant to indicate that Spike never pictured a Slayer with backup. The 2 he was familiar with fought on their own, and could be taken down as such. Spike, who is shown in that season to be a strategist, now has to re-do all his plans for taking her down.

Plus, and not that I would give ME credit for this much foresight, but if you're going to tie it in to any later episodes I would tie it in to Fool For Love. Spike's lesson to Buffy is that she wants to live because she has family and friends. Other Slayers did not (as far as Spike knew) and were that much easier to kill. So, again, a need for Spike to re-do his strategies for taking Buffy down.
Melycoffeeandink on October 1st, 2003 04:15 am (UTC)
Now that's interesting -- it never occurred to me before that the Chinese Slayer in "Fool for Love" said "Tell my mother I tried" (something like that? All I remember is the "Tell my mother" part), but Spike didn't understand her. So even when he's telling Buffy she's different because of her connections, he's blind to the connections the other Slayers had; it's a good example of self-deceit and tunnel vision.
Barbrahirah on October 1st, 2003 07:05 am (UTC)
"Tell mother I'm sorry."

And what's funny is, the script directions for this scene say that at those words Spike softens, and there's a moment of total connection. And then he tells her he doesn't understand, and kills her.
Anna S.eliade on October 1st, 2003 09:18 am (UTC)
Ahhh. See! *g*
Anna S.eliade on October 1st, 2003 09:24 am (UTC)
I think the family and friends line was meant to indicate that Spike never pictured a Slayer with backup.

Well, yeah--at the time. And yes, we're supposed to buy that Spike is all about the strategy at that time. But in retrospect, I suspect that one of the ME people was working on the S7 script and went back to review old material and realized like I did last night that it doesn't wash. What Spike should more reasonably have done is look up from the floor at Joyce and say, "Wellllll, what have we here?" And then Buffy gets all panicky and says, "Mom, get out!" And Spike slithers up to his feet and laughs and takes them both on if necessary, because Buffy would be distracted and at a disadvantage with her mom there and her mom would *not* leave at that point.

Instead, he flees to fight a later day. For no good reason, because there's no one else around threatening him. You can't say that Joyce changes the odds to 2:1, because she'd be nothing up against Spike.

Then there are all the later eps and Spike's inexplicable connection with Joyce. He respects her, I think, for her maternal love. But any maternal love in his own life was purely fanon or speculation until LMPTM.

I find it telling, from Barb's comment below, that Spike was also, in script directions, supposed to "soften" when the Chinese slayer mentioned her mother.

And then of course, not only did they give Spike mommy issues in LMPTM, they made the *New York* slayer a mother herself. So there are mothers everywhere, dogging Spike's heels, tripping him up. It's interesting...
caille on September 30th, 2003 09:22 pm (UTC)
Oh, lord, I remember the very first time I saw School Hard, when he turned around to Dru, letting his game-face slip. Whoa! Honest? It was fascination at first sight, but so not lurve. I said (to myself, as I was the only one there), "Oh my God, evil! He's Caligula as a vampire!" I was way creeped out.