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22 August 2003 @ 07:57 pm
I'm disturbed.  
So someone mentioned a Stargate story, "Falling Star" by Orrymain. (This is not a rec, by the way.) I clicked the link and realized the URL was for a Yahoo group I wasn't subscribed to. Okay, cool. So I go to google and type in "Orrymain Falling Star" to see if the story is online. And the results I get are for Yahoo group posts--for a list I do not belong to. And I can *view* them.

What the hell is up with *that*? Why is google indexing Yahoo groups? Why are posts being made public?
 
 
 
Destinadestina on August 22nd, 2003 08:02 pm (UTC)
Did you at least get to see the masterpiece?? *cough*

*g*
Anna S.eliade on August 22nd, 2003 08:06 pm (UTC)
No--they weren't real matches, from what I could tell at a glance. They were from 1999. ;) I was just freaked, though--I'm thinking there must be some kind of setting that lets your list info be googled but I don't know what it is. Maybe I didn't read the terms of use closely enough, but surely someone would have mentioned by now if list content wasn't private and protected from non-members.....
Destinadestina on August 22nd, 2003 08:10 pm (UTC)
I know there are a few lists with open archives, not restricted to members. I'm hoping that this might explain why Google picked up the posts you saw...otherwise, that could be a little worrisome.
caiathisficklemob on August 22nd, 2003 08:11 pm (UTC)
I just set up a Yahoo! group, so I know that it asks you to specify whether a group is listed in the directory, who can join, whether non-members can post, whether non-members can look in the archives, things like that. A panel along the right on the homepage, under Group Settings, tells you how a group is set up.

Whether Google can find info on unlisted, private groups I don't know, but I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be able to read the messages if the owner/moderator hadn't set it so you could.

caia
This Space Intentionally Left Blankbarkley on August 22nd, 2003 08:07 pm (UTC)
You got the posts in the Northandsouth group, right? That list (if you look on the home page) is set up such that it has public archives. You don't need to be a member to view them. Therefor any googlebots trolling for pages will pick them up.
Anna S.eliade on August 22nd, 2003 08:11 pm (UTC)
Whew. Thanks! :) I am a little too tipsy to research or reason, it would seem....
This Space Intentionally Left Blankbarkley on August 22nd, 2003 08:14 pm (UTC)
Hehe. Happy to help. I'm just biding my time on line waiting for the other droolers to weigh in about tonight's SG episode. You silly west coast people and your silly time zones.
sophia: O/X In Your Arms by puppetoflovesaraslash on August 22nd, 2003 09:16 pm (UTC)
I googled the name of Nautibitz's yahoogroups list for "Older," which I know is private because it has an application to join and everything, and Google didn't even find the group's name, so I think if the archives are private, it won't index them.
KJV: Office of Information Awarenesskjv31 on August 23rd, 2003 07:54 am (UTC)
Your YahooGroups Inquiry
Dear elaide,

Thank you for posting this in your LiveJournal.

If you are a Yahoo!Groups moderator and want to make your message archives private:

1. Go to your group and click the "management" link in the left rectangle.

2. Click on the "messages" link under the "Group Settings" heading.

3. Click on the "edit" link next to the "Posting and Archives" heading.

You can then select who gets to read messages: anyone, members only, moderators only, or you can turn off message archiving altogether.

I believe YahooGroups defaults to "members only". If you've had a public archive that has been indexed by Google, it will still show up there, but users will have to join the group to actually read the posts.

Please feel free to e-mail me with any further questions or comments you have.

Thank you for your interest in YahooGroups.

KJV
Former CS employee in the good old .com days.