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10 June 2003 @ 09:35 pm
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I have been randomly reading other people's LJs, an intrepid explorer in the world beyond my friends list. _dellamore, a member of sxandviolence, had a post on her slash history that rang all kinds of bells with me. I wonder how many other women there are out there, feral fen dreaming of boinking boys, who haven't yet touched base with a community. I like to think: hordes. However, on the question of how many women exist under the age of twenty who write so lucidly, and with neat punctuation, I suspect: not so many.

It's kind of interesting how many people seem to be members of sxandviolence who aren't part of the BtVS community I'm more familiar with; I mean, I'm just guessing, but I look for familiar overlap of user names, and don't see it, and I find it fascinating that people are sort of hanging out on the fringes, and it makes me wonder if that's by choice and they're happy there or just aren't sure how to "come in." Except just because they're on the apparent fringes of one place doesn't mean they're not in the center of somewhere else. I am being, um...commucentric, perhaps.

cbking notes that a new sequel to New Boy is up. I loved, loved, loved the first few stories of this series--which is by Two Ladies of Quality, though the web site seems to have no author names--and lost track of it. Now I have it again. There are links to the latest stories at the bottom of the page. It's Spike and Giles, and Spike/Giles, and Giles, your friendly neighborhood vamp. And okay, I haven't read the last few installments, but I feel safe in reccing it. Safe as houses...on the Hellmouth...yeah, you know what, never mind. Read it anyway.

elinora has the most gorgeous mood icons I think I've ever seen.

djinanna_recs reminds me that I've also been meaning to rec piedmargaret's new S/X WIP, Insight, of which there's currently a part one and part two. I can't wait to read more of this. There's something about the dusty road and the diner and the sun beating down on Xander's parched self that rips the buttons from my shirt and sends them bouncing around as my heaving chest is revealed...what I'm trying to say is, I like realism. I especially like it applied to fantastical universes and otherworldly creatures, because I think the borderland where the real smashes into the unreal is one of the most interesting places to inhabit.

I want to wave to 10zlaine. I'd claim it was for no particularly good reason, but in fact she's written me more than one great e-mail that I don't think I've ever answered, and she lives in Maine, and I'm from Maine. And I'm random.

_reema is kind of a hoot, I notice. I am trying to decide which of these is funnier: "You're drowning. If you write a sub-thesis, I will lend you my motorboat, and/or a bunch of these foam rescue things," or, "Precalculus is fun." ::Anna makes devil sign against demons of math:: Also, she apparently watched Chasing Amy with her parents. I think you get a medal for that if you write to Miramax.

My friend anaxila ("mostly effective when administered from the first day of disease manifestation") made some gorgeous icons the other day, which I've been meaning to point out, and asks about the proper use of the word "pimp." Anna uses the word in a sentence: "I pimped QAF to Amy and now she is jonesing for it bad, the darling little crackwhore."

On that note, cerdd_gwen asks, "How much Queer as Folk is too much? ... I've been conducting research on this all day long and have yet to find the answer. It's another few hours before I go to bed, so I have until then to continue testing." Tomorrow night A. & S. and I will start watching season two. I'm psyched. There will also be fried chicken. At first, it was going to be friend chicken, but then I realized I'd made a typo. Which is a good thing. Because there's a whole cannibalism subtext there I'd like to ignore, plus we've already made the requisite Chicken Lady jokes today.

flangirl ponders the question and possibly the religious implications of who's fucking you. Am I going to get her into trouble by putting her innocent question in this context? And if someone tells me to "fuck off," what does that mean? ("How shall we fuck off, O Lord?")

ginmar has a cool and interesting post about actions versus words, and [and apparently my thought just trailed off here, so I'll leave it at that].

gwynnega is also watching QAF. I'm making a list now. To no particular end. Just because it cheers me. And of course this may be something I should have known already from comments, but um, I have a bad memory. In fact most days I forget where I work and end up wandering around down by the harbor docks come nine a.m., mewling like a lost kitten until longshoremen pick me up under their beefy arms and carry me to my cubicle. I've never dared admit this before now. I feel much cleaner.

After reading several entries in lovessong's LJ, I decided it was time to friend her. (Confidential to lovessong: If you're wondering what entry tipped the scales, it was, "If you want to read about my brother and speculations on gay bestial plushie sex, check out casseigh's lj, here." Because yes, yes I do want to read speculations on gay bestial plushie sex. And kudos to you for knowing that. Sadly it appears the entry is gone, but I forgive you and will friend you anyway. Because you also wrote a great story about a snake that begs those age-old questions: "Don't steal others' snakes while drunk? Don't drunkenly hurl snakes? Plush snakes, while fuzzy and good neck warmers, may terrify elderly relatives?")

And all the rest of you, see how easy it is? I'd friend you if you wrote about gay bestial plushie sex. Really, I would.

Okay, no I wouldn't. I'm sorry. Because if I friended everyone it would be mere hours before I'd die, suffocated under a tribblelike deluge of entries. I realize I suck for not figuring out a savvy filters thing and friending everyone who has friended me, but there you go. I'm lazy. Don't unfriend me, please? I am feeling especially neurotic today. Do you hate me now? Do you, do you? "Friending" is such a touchy issue. Some people don't have me friended, and I don't care. Other people don't have me friended and I sometimes wonder about that. In general, I try to ignore it while paying close attention to it while biting my nails and balancing plates on my head.

crickwooder has an entry on the BtVS episode "Family," and she's right, it's one of those sleeper eps, always better than you remember when you rewatch. And I am always surprised to be reminded that Joss wrote it. I got caught up reading the transcript on psyche a few weeks ago and was cracking up every few lines. Great dialogue.

So, back to BtVS recs. I discovered that janedavitt has a new story up in her Predatory series, Preying on My Mind. (S/X) There is much good here. I think the fancy narrative footwork is inventive and fun, proving that canon is more elastic than we sometimes think. Jane's main slash page is here.

Also, I've been clutching the pleasure of reading Kalima's Nicolette Says Jump to my ample bosom. (I bought a bra today. I am 42DD. Shut up.) It's one of those stories that seems almost unnecessary to rec, because surely everyone's read it, right? It's like the poster-boy story for the "I don't read slash, but I really liked this" contingent, a group of readers that gets a bad rap, because while I do see the backhanded slap of a compliment in that sort of rec, I think these people are fun to woo and startle. Plus, god knows, I've made remarks like that often enough myself. ("I don't usually read Lilah/Cordelia, and in fact I think you L/C shippers are on crack, but...") Anyway, Kalima's story is fantastic, and I like my slashy dishiness in all flavors, so I'm perfectly happy with the idea that Spike and Xander really can't stand each other and need to be blissed-out on X to get it on and will never look each other in the eye afterwards, and that's kind of spoilerish, isn't it, but I bet you've all read it, so never mind. For the rest of you, that summary should be an incentive.

Also, in the S/X trifecta--am I using that word right? probably not, but I like it and want to use it often--WesleysGirl finished Seeing Distant Things As If They Were Close, which made me think about hair-washing quite a lot. In a good way. It really is a dreamy, lathery sort of pleasure.

auroramama, I owe you e-mail in the worst way. It is coming. In the meantime, I kiss you here in public.

Herself, I am flaming suckpig on a stick for not reading what you sent me last night. Don't hate me, please?

Other than the above transgressions, I feel semi-virtuous because I've talked about people other than myself for a change. No matter that I was killing time in the way I usually do, postponing the inevitable attempt to climb back on the writing horse as well as the need to lift myself out of this desk chair.

...lift myself...out of this chair...

If anyone needs me, I'll be slowly sliding down my spine.


 
 
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lovessonglovessong on June 10th, 2003 09:57 pm (UTC)
After reading several entries in lovessong's LJ, I decided it was time to friend her.

:) Thanks.

(Confidential to lovessong: If you're wondering what entry tipped the scales, it was, "If you want to read about my brother and speculations on gay bestial plushie sex, check out casseigh's lj, here." Because yes, yes I do want to read speculations on gay bestial plushie sex. And kudos to you for knowing that. Sadly it appears the entry is gone, but I forgive you and will friend you anyway. Because you also wrote a great story about a snake that begs those age-old questions: "Don't steal others' snakes while drunk? Don't drunkenly hurl snakes? Plush snakes, while fuzzy and good neck warmers, may terrify elderly relatives?")

The plush snake in question is the same one. My brother is kind of hilarious when he's drunk. Although also something of an idiot. . . Now that I think about it, the two are kind of connected.

And I'm not sure why you couldn't get to iliadawry's entry that explains all about David and the gay plushie bestial sex, but here it is, probably far less interesting than you hoped:

lovessong: my brother came in drunk and took my snake off to the basement. if he pukes on the snake, I will be very miffed.
me: Why did your drunken brother steal your snake?
lovessong: i do not attempt to understand his motives.
lovessong: he claims to not have designs on the snake.
me: Fair enough.
lovessong: but he was very satisfied with it as a choker.
me: What sort of designs did you think he has?
me: *laughs*
lovessong: i insinuated that he wanted to have gay bestial sex with it, of course.
me: Ahhh.
lovessong: he denied such things in a very mellow manner.
me: Gay bestial plushie sex.
lovessong: he's a stupid, but calm, drunk.
lovessong: indeed!
me: *laughs*
lovessong: gay bestiality is all well and good, but those plushies, man, they're *sick*! *g*

She notes:
lovessong: I would like to disclaim my earlier statements, for anyone who may be a bit touchy on the subject of plushies *or* bestiality: I am joking on all counts, and none of this is meant to imply my actual feeling about any variety of controversial sexual activity.
Anna S.eliade on June 10th, 2003 10:05 pm (UTC)
lovessong: he's a stupid, but calm, drunk.

Snerk. That was very worth it--thank you for posting. {g}
Circe: Opera by wisteriacirce_tigana on June 10th, 2003 10:22 pm (UTC)
My friend amyzoncom ("mostly effective when administered from the first day of disease manifestation") made some gorgeous icons the other day, which I've been meaning to point out

Guh! Thank you for doing so!!! See my user name??? The "Tigana" is from those damn books. ::runs off in a gleeful dash of Guy Gavriel Kay love::
behindblue_eyes on June 10th, 2003 10:31 pm (UTC)
I feel ya, sister. It's utterly bizarre to go shopping with my, shall we say, "less endowed" friends. Shirts don't fit right, you have to run with your arms held all funny (if you run at all)... Yep, we of the big boobs have to stick together. There are benefits, though. I quote Nicolette: “Soft evil is the worst kind.” Hee. ;)

Thanks for all the recs, can't wait to get reading tomorrow.

gwynnega on June 10th, 2003 11:30 pm (UTC)
gwynnega is also watching QAF. I'm making a list now. To no particular end. Just because it cheers me. And of course this may be something I should have known already from comments, but um, I have a bad memory.

I'm pretty new to QaF (so far have only seen parts of the first season and current season, but if I weren't up to my eyeballs in grad school reading, I would definitely be watching the old eps at a much faster rate). I got converted to it recently by herself_nyc and by the current wave of QaF-love here on LJ!

flangirl on June 10th, 2003 11:44 pm (UTC)
flangirl ponders the question and possibly the religious implications of who's fucking you. Am I going to get her into trouble by putting her innocent question in this context? And if someone tells me to "fuck off," what does that mean? ("How shall we fuck off, O Lord?")

Oooh, that made me laugh so hard! Now that you've pointed it out, it's so crystal clear!
flangirl on June 10th, 2003 11:45 pm (UTC)
Also... Nicolette Says Jump... everyone has read that, right?
mf: commentsthe_emef on June 11th, 2003 01:36 am (UTC)
what you said about sxandviolence members who aren't part of the btvs community - I guess maybe for some of us (I'm not even a member of sxandviolence, come to think of it) since it's always been just about the reading of, never about the writing of slash, I guess there never really was a point to "coming in" (coming out?). I'm a great, big, huge fan of you, and other writers (btw, whatever happened to Jane Mortimer? I've read The Same Everywhere more times than I can count, but then she just... disappeared) but since I've never really thought of anything constructive (or funny, or entertaining) to say to you guys, then... lurker it is.
snoopygirllsnoopygirll on June 11th, 2003 06:36 am (UTC)
And all the rest of you, see how easy it is? I'd friend you if you wrote about gay bestial plushie sex. Really, I would.

*crosses eyes* Fringe-dweller declines thank you very much. ;)

You're comments about friending, defriending? You are on and off my list like a yoyo because when I feel like culling I only do it to those who haven't friended me. So ours is the perfect relationship. And lets face it with you off my list traffic is halved. Hee!

There is a point to this post, and here it is: Thank you for the recs to all those lovely Spander stories. I never would have found them on my own. I've put them on my frankenstein of a 'list of stories to read' and expect to finish them all any day now. *falls over dead*

herself_nyc on June 11th, 2003 01:26 pm (UTC)
I will punish you for your neglect (and you couldn't even make my name into a link! Everyone else is a link, damnit!) when I see you. Especially now I know we're nearly the same bra size.

Not that, uh, bras or anything remotely near them will be involved in said "punishment." The punishment will concern, hmmm . . . I'm still planning. But be afraid. Be very afraid.
Anna S.eliade on June 11th, 2003 02:18 pm (UTC)
I will punish you for your neglect (and you couldn't even make my name into a link! Everyone else is a link, damnit!)

Well, I was mostly highlighting people who aren't on my friends list, who other people might not know how to easily find. Honestly? I figured everyone had *you* friended already. ;)

But go ahead, punish me, baby! Spank me and call me your little monkey!

"No, no, no--my name is *Anna*, not *Anya*..."
Beck: Spike Immortalbeck_liz on June 11th, 2003 01:37 pm (UTC)
Also, I've been clutching the pleasure of reading Kalima's Nicolette Says Jump to my ample bosom. (I bought a bra today. I am 42DD. Shut up.) It's one of those stories that seems almost unnecessary to rec, because surely everyone's read it, right? It's like the poster-boy story for the "I don't read slash, but I really liked this" contingent, a group of readers that gets a bad rap, because while I do see the backhanded slap of a compliment in that sort of rec, I think these people are fun to woo and startle. Plus, god knows, I've made remarks like that often enough myself. ("I don't usually read Lilah/Cordelia, and in fact I think you L/C shippers are on crack, but...") Anyway, Kalima's story is fantastic, and I like my slashy dishiness in all flavors, so I'm perfectly happy with the idea that Spike and Xander really can't stand each other and need to be blissed-out on X to get it on and will never look each other in the eye afterwards, and that's kind of spoilerish, isn't it, but I bet you've all read it, so never mind. For the rest of you, that summary should be an incentive.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for recommending that! I don't normally like S/X, myself (I love slash, I just don't get this particular pairing, although I love Spike and Xander snarking at each other), but I thoroughly enjoyed this. And like you, I can see how that kind of statement can seem like a slap, and in some cases probably is, but heck. If someone has never read and/or liked a particular pairing/type of story before, reads one, loves it, and goes on to look for more of it, isn't that of the good?
Magpie: insightpiedmargaret on June 11th, 2003 06:40 pm (UTC)
There's something about the dusty road and the diner and the sun beating down on Xander's parched self that rips the buttons from my shirt and sends them bouncing around as my heaving chest is revealed... -- does this make Insight a bodice-ripper?

Thank you for kind words and heaving bosom alike :-)
_dellamore_dellamore on June 12th, 2003 02:03 am (UTC)
Ahh, sweet Spike/Xander. And they said it wouldn't last. ::smiles stupidly::

Yes. Thank you, wondrous Anna, for the words about my post and the journal pimpage (I hope that was the correct usage.) It was sort of an onanistic experiment in nostalgia, and I realize it must sound terribly self-important. Just ignore that. But it's quite an interesting topic; I've always wondered about how people are introduced to slash, about how that differs from person to person. If I had any sort of focus, I'd write a book. Or at least an investigative pamphlet. In fact. I'm going to seriously mull that over. ::mulls seriously::

JaneDavittjanedavitt on June 12th, 2003 04:29 am (UTC)
Thanks for the rec of Preying; all sorts of people have been wandering over to read it from you link according to my web page stats. I must actually get on with the next chapter now the flashfics are done.

Friending; I'm amazed some of you get anything done with hundreds of friends as it's so addictive reading journals and delving deeper with links and such. That being so, not adding one more to the precariously poised pile is sensible, so I don't get huffy if I friend and don't get friended back. So you're staying on my list regardless ::grin::