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05 June 2003 @ 11:05 pm
sex and the city  
I lent my QAF DVDs to A., and in return she lent me her season-four Sex and the City DVDs, which have been rented out steadily for weeks at the video store.

I'd forgotten what a fucking great show this is. Not having watched in a while, it had settled in my mind in the shape of a thirty-minute dramedy, frothy and facile. I'd forgotten how incredibly real it can seem, how moving it can be. Most of the time it's a hoot, and then it will suddenly twist and gut you, because under the bright veneer are so many layers of loneliness and need and insecurity. I think I've cried at six out of the first seven eps.

The weird thing is that the characters are not people I'd ever hang with. Trendy New Yorkers, slim and social, more or less well off and well-sexed. But after a while, I mostly stop noticing the differences and see only the likenesses. Like in the episode where Miranda suddenly goes on a baking spree, and she's in her kitchen and she's made a cake. She eats a few slices, puts it away and then suddenly goes back and starts doing the sliver-slicing trick: where you slice inch-thick strips of cake off, piece by piece, telling yourself you'll just have a tiny bit more, not a real slice, not a full slice. Later, she dumps the cake in the trash. Then goes back and grabs a hunk off the top with her bare hands and gnaws at it like a rat, looking broody.

Then she pours dishwasher liquid on the remains to stop herself from eating any more.

Jesus. I've done *all* that.

What a great show. And I love Miranda. I think she's my favorite.

It should be like a quiz: What "Sex and the City" character do *you* identify with?

Also, I've just realized that Samantha is kind of like the female Brian Kinney. Different in key ways--she's incredibly expressive, for one thing, whereas he's very carefully *inexpressive*, and yet when it comes down to it, they're both out of touch with their emotional core. They both reject the intimacy of long-term relationships and pursue sex with a single-minded devotion.

And Annie's right: Samantha should definitely sleep with Spike.

harmonyfb: horror mavenharmonyfb on June 6th, 2003 03:19 am (UTC)
The weird thing is that the characters are not people I'd ever hang with. Trendy New Yorkers, slim and social, more or less well off and well-sexed.

Gah. I can't stand that show. Those characters seem to me to represent some of the worst of America - incredibly self-absorbed, shallow, treating sex, well, really, with about the same level of spiritual depth as getting a manicure. Bleah. Also most of them seriously need force-feeding. Note to Sarah Jessica Parker (and tangentally to SMG) - when you can see your ribs through your skin, it's not sexy, it's off-putting.

I think I watched about three episodes, trying to figure out what people were raving about. No thanks, I'll stick to "Coupling". At least those shallow people are funny. ;)
Nia: pop is fantasticpopfantastic on June 6th, 2003 04:36 am (UTC)
A long time ago I came to the conclusion that the reason there is no quiz -- at least, not one that has made the fannish rounds -- is that we are almost entirely Mirandas. Except for the five or six of us who are Charlottes. But mostly: Miranda, Miranda, Miranda.

I enjoy the show enormously as well, despite (or even because of) its copious faults and the sometimes-really-grating-voice-overs.
Akashaakasha9 on June 6th, 2003 06:19 am (UTC)
Sex in the city quizzes
It should be like a quiz: What "Sex in the City" character do *you* identify with?

I found this one and this one. Knock yourself out. :)
par avionpar_avion on June 6th, 2003 07:36 pm (UTC)
Re: Sex in the city quizzes
Well, I scored 60% Miranda: You chose many of the same answers that Earth Sign-like Miranda, the cynical but pragmatic lawyer, might have chosen. Just like Miranda's had a tough time deciding whether to give in to the affections of Steve the Bartender, you don't give your heart up to just anyone. Miranda shies away from a relationship with Steve because he's 'just' a bartender, not something more conventionally ambitious or stable. Those with powerful Earth Sign qualities -- characteristics associated with Taurus, Virgo and Capricorn -- are cautious in love and seek stability and status over nearly anything else. Earth Signs provide a steady, realistic attitude and they can bring order out of chaos. A little-known Earth Sign fact: Incredibly sensual, you seethe beneath that smart, expensive business suit of yours, yearning for intimacy but hesitant to give up your material needs, your career ambitions or your responsibilities for a passionate moment that might not turn out the way you'd hope.
Anna S.eliade on June 6th, 2003 08:11 pm (UTC)
Re: Sex in the city quizzes
I'm not sure how good a match I am when I can barely wrap my mind around the questions, none of which apply to me in this or any universe I can imagine. But I got a score of "50% Miranda" on one (followed by a trailing 30% Carrie, 10% Samantha, 10% Charlotte) and Charlotte on the other, and that actually seems very accurate, if contradictory. {g}
Akasha: Lipsakasha9 on June 7th, 2003 05:02 am (UTC)
Re: Sex in the city quizzes
I could barely wrap my brain around the questions either. How do you answer the questions when most of your answers would be "none of the above" or that would just never happen?

I got a score of 50% Carrie, 30% Miranda, 10% Charlotte, and 10% Samantha. I'm not sure if that is accurate.

I took the other test and was Miranda through and through. ::shrug::

Maybe I'm a nice little mix of the two. *g*
Anaxila / Babblesanaxila on June 6th, 2003 06:28 am (UTC)
I'd forgotten what a fucking great show this is. Not having watched in a while, it had settled in my mind in the shape of a thirty-minute dramedy, frothy and facile. I'd forgotten how incredibly real it can seem, how moving it can be

The same thing happens to me. I've never watched the show live, just DVD. I'll start out normal, but then keep running eps one after another and plow through disc after disc until I've neither eaten nor showered but consumed an entire season of DVDs in a weekend. I'll be convinced by the last episode of the season that I cannot possibly survive a year until the next season arrives... then I'll forget about two days later that it exists. I've never had a show that I can dive so totally into and then forget about in such rapid succession. Glad you're enjoying the discs. :)
Pouncerthepouncer on June 6th, 2003 07:25 am (UTC)
What "Sex in the City" character do *you* identify with?

Miranda, without a doubt. Also a certain measure of Charlotte, excepting the "wants to get married above all else" thing.

Season four was when I started watching. The first episode I saw was the one when Carrie is going to meet Big's new wife at a luncheon and she's all stressed over her clothes and appearance. I definitely saw myself doing the same thing in that situation. I missed a lot of the episodes last season, but plan to catch up in time for this one. I have the first three seasons on DVD and plan to get the fourth. There's just something about it that I love. My mother is hysterical in her opinion: "In my day, we'd have called those girls sluts." My sister and I giggle over that one.
Herself_nyc: Spike Sniffingherself_nyc on June 6th, 2003 07:52 am (UTC)
I had the same experience--before I ever saw the show I assumed it would be inane and offensive, and then I saw it and fell in love. And yes, I don't find it easy to identify with these very thin women who always manage to meet straight attractive guys at the drop of a hat, but there is such deep down love for New York in that show, and an understanding, despite the exaggerations, of what it's like to be a New Yorker in love with her city.

I've also found myself in a lot of the locations they use--they film around here a lot. The exterior of what was Aiden's house is down the block from me, and they've set scenes in restaurants I frequent often, and in Abingdon Sq, my local sit-outside-hang-out.

And yeah--despite their glamour, the angst is not skipped over. Your example of Miranda and the cake is just one of many.

Re: Samantha and Brian. Someone said in an article a couple years ago that S&TC is really about gay men who are just played by women. The point being, I guess, that the writer thought they didn't behave so much like women as he or she thought. It's one way of looking at it. Samantha of course is the one who fits that definition best.
auroramama on June 6th, 2003 09:10 pm (UTC)
Identify with? How about: which one would you do?
That's what I'm thinking when I admire the admirable Miranda. I used to thrill every time she said anything that could be construed as bi-curious. (The actual ep with Carrie and the bi guy encapsulates what bugs me about the show: a lot of episodes seem to explore something, then back off to end on Carrie confidently reiterating her original prejudice.)

Samantha and Spike would have a real fun time. But for learning experiences, I'd pair Samantha with Faith.