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11 June 2005 @ 07:12 pm
live the cliche  
rahirah's post about fanon got me thinking. I realized, whoa: I'm in a fandom subgenre *so* *small* that:
  1. It has no recurring nicknames or verbal tics that drive everyone mad
  2. It has no fanon
  3. It has so little writing *at* *all* that it doesn't have enough badfic to be its own *genre*
Think about the implications of this.

One, I can have Jack call Vaughn "whelp" and no one will think twice! ... Okay, bad example. But you know what I mean.

Two, I can *make* the fanon. In fact, I make it now! Sloane went to Oxford! Weiss loves pickles! Vaughn has a mild phobia about squirrels!

Three...number three is just good.

Plus, you know how there's that thing when you're writing in a fandom and suddenly someone comes out with a telepathy story. And it's not just a great telepathy story. That would be okay. It's the *first* telepathy story and it's so freaking brilliant that it will *remain* the *definitive* telepathy story for that fandom. Forever. And so you never write a telepathy story. Because your writerly ego quails, your hands shake with nerves and flop sweat, the very idea makes you want to hide under your desk.

Well, ha ha ha! I can write every single wonderful cliche--FIRST! Actually, this may give the impression that I don't want other writers to tackle the same story ideas, but you'd be wrong. I love challenges where everyone does a variation on the same idea, and you get *thirty* telepathy stories all at once. I love the idea that something I write could lodge a kink in someone's head and they have to write it too. Because then I get to read it. But of course, with the above, I'm just talking about my own idiosyncratic writerly ego-reaction.

ETA: This post has been edited.
 
 
 
wyoluvrwyoluvr on June 12th, 2005 03:05 am (UTC)
Vaughn has a mild phobia about squirrels!

SQUIRRELS!!!OMGSQUIRRELS!

i love squirrels. they're so cute and i'm sure they're plotting world domination. much like penguins. also, the gay sex.
eirena on June 12th, 2005 03:12 am (UTC)
How I got to your journal is a bit of a round-about story. See, I read selenak's LJ, and she linked to a Jack & Sloane fic that kangeiko had posted... and kangeiko raved about your Jack/Vaughn fic, so I decided that, since I'd enjoyed the Jack K. had written, that I would give your J/V stuff a go. You see, I'm very wary about the slash that I read. Too often, it seems, plot and characterisation seem to go out the window just to get the two pretty men to do pretty, hot things to each other... But I clicked over. And I'm glad I did.


I've just completed 'Raw' and the posted parts of 'The Bona Fides', and I'm friending you (I hope you don't mind!) in order to follow the latter story.

Weiss' point of view in telling the former was just fantastic -- the "wow, bad, wrong, but still intriguing" element came across so fabulously in his voice. And it was delicious ;)

'The Bona Fides', though, was perfect. The mission premise is just wacky, and Jack and Vaughn are just so perfectly in character that I was laughing so very hard in places -- the vicious bitchiness of both of them to begin with was wonderful, melting into a genuine regard. I actually copy-and-pasted lines of the fic to a friend on AIM who doesn't even watch Alias, because I was laughing so hard and had to share ;)

Also, one thing in both that I truly appreciated, and my hat is off to you -- you don't give Sydney the short end of the stick to get Jack & Vaughn together. She's still complex, emotional, real and the character I love so dearly. (Another pet peeve of mine in any fic -- het, slash, whatever -- is when the existing love interest gets turned into a vicious caricature for plot purposes... and you totally didn't do this... so, kudos.)


And this really is an awfully long comment from a complete stranger... so... *little smile* I'll wrap up by saying, again, awesome fic. I'll be reading...
Anna S.: vaughneliade on June 12th, 2005 03:47 am (UTC)
Hello! You may friend me, of course. :) I'm so glad you're enjoying the fiction, and your feedback is great--and I'm glad the Sydney factor is working for you. I love Sydney, at least when my PMS isn't on the same cycle as hers. *g*

nd this really is an awfully long comment from a complete stranger...

It's great!

'The Bona Fides', though, was perfect. The mission premise is just wacky, and Jack and Vaughn are just so perfectly in character that I was laughing so very hard in places -- the vicious bitchiness of both of them to begin with was wonderful,

'Vicious bitchiness.' I love that. *g*
eirena on June 12th, 2005 04:07 am (UTC)
I love Sydney, at least when my PMS isn't on the same cycle as hers. *g*

Yes. I get bitchy at her when she gets bitchy at Jack ;) He's the major reason I got so utterly hooked on Alias, so I'm protective of the Spydaddy ;)

Thanks for replying -- I feel less foolish when people talk back to me ;)
cindershadow on June 12th, 2005 04:08 am (UTC)
I'm going to be pushy and butt in here. Be sure you keep working your way back through eliade's LJ, because there is more JV out there. She's also recently completed a wonderful, funny, sweet, hot set of something she calls "Shortcuts" (one long tale) and a sizzling, twisty, fantastic thing before that (also posted in parts on LJ) called "The Mission." It's been an incredible last few weeks! (And then there's her work in other fandoms that's on her website, but of course you can find that on your own . . . )
eirena on June 12th, 2005 04:25 am (UTC)
Ooh, noted. Thank you :)
cindershadow on June 12th, 2005 04:37 am (UTC)
You're very welcome. The festival of JV goodness began in her LJ on May 18 (with hints and bits beforehand). Not that I am in any way obsessed with it. Oh, no. Not a bit.
eirena on June 12th, 2005 04:39 am (UTC)
*laughs* It's a lot of fun. Jack/Irina is definitely my OTP, but I'm enjoying the JV. Thanks again :)
That Chick with the Evil Laugh: Alias For the love of Irina!!sparkymonster on June 12th, 2005 04:53 am (UTC)
Me neither. I didn't have the J/V goodness derail a post of mine that was supposed to be about the S4 finale and ended up being me flailing about eliade's fic. Nope. Didn't happen to me at all.
cindershadow on June 12th, 2005 05:06 am (UTC)
Clearly addictive. Soon to be on the controlled substances list. To be dispensed only by licensed pharmacists under a doctor's orders . . . I can feel withdrawal pains at the very thought!
julia_herejulia_here on June 12th, 2005 05:09 am (UTC)
Because I am hardworking and/or evilly selfish, I've gotten all the eliade Alias fics posted in a new "Alias" fic recommendations thread at the S'cubie board, for the good of those who wish to reread and reread and... well, you get the point. Right?

Julia, way behind on recs but got that much accomplished last week, under the able and wonderous modship of Rachael.
julia_herejulia_here on June 12th, 2005 05:11 am (UTC)
Links posted, Links posted.

I've done sufficient damage to this day, I think I should retire from the field of battle.

Julia, possibly stupid
cindershadow on June 12th, 2005 05:36 am (UTC)
No, Julia clearly wonderful (but deserving of a rest). Share the wealth, yay!
cindershadow on June 12th, 2005 04:02 am (UTC)
One, I can have Jack call Vaughn "whelp" and no one will think twice!

Not fair! I think I ruptured an internal organ. (The human body is only designed to laugh just so hard, you know. Have mercy.)

gianna24gianna24 on June 12th, 2005 04:07 am (UTC)
I responded earlier but it disappeared. Odd and disconcerting. In general it was pretty much a, "Yay for creating new cliches." sort of post. But I'm now bugged that it didn't post. Hm.
Barbrahirah on June 12th, 2005 05:37 am (UTC)
(envies you your virgin territory)
Dragon Scholardragonscholar on June 13th, 2005 12:21 am (UTC)
I have a similar love of things. I LIKE seeing things I've seen before done again. It makes the things seem fresh, I suppose, and you also get a glimpse into how the author's mind works.
StarWatcherstarwatcher307 on June 13th, 2005 01:05 am (UTC)
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For proof that squirrels can be dangerous, read this --
http://cuagain.manilasites.com/stories/storyReader$287

Fair warning -- Do NOT eat or drink anything while reading! Severe danger of spewing and/or choking ahead.
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shadowscastshadowscast on June 13th, 2005 01:29 am (UTC)
You weren't kidding. Oh. My. God.
shadowscastshadowscast on June 13th, 2005 01:23 am (UTC)
Hee. I wrote in a subgenre that small once. It was fun.
Herself_nycherself_nyc on June 13th, 2005 02:44 pm (UTC)
You're so cute when you squeee.
kari: cedrichopeless_childe on February 8th, 2006 03:44 am (UTC)
before you get scared and think i'm stalking you or something, i was recommended your Jack/Vaughn fics by monanotlisa (or something like that) from ff.net

you are terribly funny. i like you. ^_^